Player Features and Ideas Discussion

And this where the Faction Warfare SOV mechanics come in....
With FW SOV mechanics aplied to 0.0 people would have to defend systems more persistently.
Where FW in low sec have novice, small, medium and large complexes,
Null should have Medium, Large and X-Large (for capitals)
Because in Null sec it would start with Mediums, they wont have to worry about stabbed frigates running them.

What the hell is wrong with you people? CCP has said they are looking at changing the one game mechanic that’s simply the most horrendous part about playing this game and the best most of you can come up with is to ask for adjustments to this same ****** game mechanic? Why the **** aren’t you asking them to get rid of it?

Just get rid of the SOV structures and associated timers!! “Own” your space by living in it, farming it, policing it, and defending it. If you can’t, and needed to hide behind millions of HP and timers, then gtfo you don’t deserve to be in that space! The “timers” associated with these things fuel the “Power Projection” and associated blobbing problem since PL and others can plan days in advance to form up for these timers. Without timers fights happen/grow organically, hit TiDi less often, and allow less time for word to travel and for PL to ping enough people online to get there effectively before it’s over. If they do…………fine, it won’t happen as often as it does now.

Most Alliances fear losing their “SOV” simply because of the numbers, Super caps, and ridiculous amount of time and effort it took to “take” the space the now live in. Take that horrifying experience out of the equation and I bet many of them wouldn't put up with being the political hostages/puppets they currently are. Keep in mind that just because SOV structure and timers go away it doesn’t mean you “lose your space”, it just means you own what you can control/police/defend/and farm with your Corp or Alliance. NIPs, NAPs, BoTLRDs, and standings could still provide the “protection” you covet if you still want them after having the weight/threat of “grinding structures and timers” lifted off your back.

Get rid of “docking rights” to the hundreds of unused stations and outposts that litter 0.0. Use the ones in your space that you already do and hunt those that show up to use the others, or don’t, and negotiate standings with them like you would renters to be left alone for a fee etc. Whoever “controls” the space (region, constellation, or systems) would control the local diplomacy and politics of the area. Not millions of HP, timers, and some guy who never logs in from an Alliance 6 regions away ffs.

But where is my Alliance name on the EVE map!!! Alliance Capital Stations (ACS) - Each Alliance can launch only one “Capital Station”. When you anchor the ACS you have to name it and the name can never be changed unless Alliance is disbanded (ownership drops) or it’s destroyed and a new one put up. I see these as the “Castle Blacks” or PL’s “The Sphere” stronghold of EVE driving the narrative and actual history for the future books and stories of EVE to come.

Obviously the current size of some Alliances could be too big for pilots to use just one Region or they want to “own” two or more Regions. Welp they’d need to develop new Alliances and CEOs to drop Alliance Cap Stations in more Regions and this would add stress to the power dynamic and diplomatic scene that EVE needs so much. New Alliance leaders would actually matter a lot more than they do these days and when directors decide to press the "button" on an Alliance Cap Station it could be a little more interesting than just mopping up SOV structures with Super fleets. Anyways, this stacks the house of cards a lot higher which creates content.

It takes an Alliance to up keep it….they take fuel, ammo, food, dancers, janitors, cows, booze, drugs, etc. to operate/maintain…or it goes off line. It takes the ACS Construction Skill book, ACS Station Management Skill Book, BPO, and construction costs which could rival that of what it currently costs to build a Titan. ACS Upgrade Mod Construction Skill Books and BPOs, ACS Regional Embassy Upgrade Mod Construction Skill Books and BPOs, Upgrade Mod Construction costs, and the cost to up keep the ACS would provide the significant isk sinks and industrial activity needed, just like current sov bills do. It might take a little while to actually see many of these out there in null sec but talk about an Alliance goal to be achieved and the pride pilots would have once they got one up.

ACS Regional Embassy Station Upgrade Mods could be fitted to provide bonuses to all open stations in your Region selected as Embassy’s and POS’s anchored in the Region for specific things which would draw players to your Region because others don’t have that Mod fitted to their ACS. Bonuses are based on your standings with the ACS owner. Your ACS has a SC construction Upgrade fitted? Well guess where all the SC builders could headed with their CSAAs and POS’s…. Maybe you can only fit 4 on your ACS so your Region could be pretty well known for select bonuses.

Embassy’s – (Its already going on so why not make it official) An Alliance holding a Region with a ACS, can secure an “Embassy” in a Regional station or outpost in each of the Constellations within the Region held. The additional benefits aside from what the ACS supplies an Embassy can be decided as this mechanics are hammered out. Maybe some sort of benefits to anyone using the station for trade, industry, or whatever which in turn allows the Alliance to tax the goings on in that station etc.

The ACS is destructible. Mechanics of how it’s destructible, timers…………..yes I said “timers”, and what drops is something CCP/Players can toy with. If we’re going to have timers we should probably have them on **** that matters like POS’s and these things. These could be your B-R situations of the future. Hire PL to attack of defend one of these things.

You might want to check out Seagull's Reddit thread: http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/2bp2cp/i_am_andie_nordgren_ccp_seagull_the_new_executive/

There are some interesting comments about null.

I would disagree that an anti-social culture exists in highsec but rather CCP has not really put much into the game that rewards group behavior by carebears like myself.

Be warned I will be saying the "w" word, those unable to handle it can stop reading now.....

WOW encouraged group game play by adding dungeons (read as missions) that simply cannot be done solo. Further, they added a grouping mechanic so that you didnt have to spam local for 2 hours just to find a group. Yes there are L5's but you can tell if you follow this game that carebears aren't running them and they wont unless they are moved to highsec.

Surely more game mechanics 'could' be added to the game that would reward grouping behavior by highsec carebears but this is not something CCP has shown any significant interest in and I doubt they will, which is fine if that is how they prefer their game but stating that highsec is anti-social because their is little incentive to group play EVE as a carebear is mislabeling the situation.

ah .. the vastness of space .. oh wait in eve it only takes a couple of cynos and wahay!!!! space is tiny ...

You dont need novices in Null, you can run a Medium with a small frig gang.
That way you can teach them the ropes without sending them alone out there.

true, it would probably have to be scaled up so a novice in null would take at least a cruiser to complete.

I also think the plexes need to work fundamentally differently or null would be crawling with farmers.

1) Block warping until the plex is done so anyone that enters can't leave until its finished, if someone shows up you just have to suck it up and make the best of it but I don't think the warp disruption should apply to pods unless tackled by a player. Corps with a POS in system have an advantage since they can ship up if they see someone in a plex, which is a good thing imo. It could also lead to bait and switch tactics where you send a gang of cheap t1 bait cruisers knowing they will show up in something bigger, and then they are stuck so you could have a fleet of battleships or caps or whatever waiting to go in and finish them off, which might lead to escalations and tough choices for fc's.

2) Offensive plexing (in a hostile or NPC controlled system) pays nothing except what your corp chooses to pay for any corp LP you win. So a Corp CEO could identify the systems they want to take, these would show under the faction war warzone control tab, and any plexes his players capture in those systems will pay out corp lp, the corp can then set how much they pay for any LP won, so instead of an LP store the LP is directly swapped for ISK from the corp wallet, this gives a tool for ceo's to incentivise sov pushes without having to monitor everything and could take the place of SRP? Defensive plexing to maintain sov would pay pretty good isk so it would take the place of ratting as the main pve activity in null, it's hard to say how much ISK/hr it should pay tbh. That would have to be monitored and adjusted later depending on how many ships are lost to pvp in the plexes after its rolled out. As a reference point I'd say more than what nullsec ratters currently make, it's a similar activity but with a lot more risk if you're prevented from warping out.

Some ideas:

- delays (minimum 2-3 hours) must be inserted in cynochains jumps for militant ships or else (super)caps using immediate jump mode must become transport ships with NO offensive abilities and repair limited only to self-repair. E.g. after 1st jump to cyno all (super)capital ships can offend, use drones and remote repair modules as usual. Either they fight in the cyno system or wait 2-3 hours and jump to next cyno. If it is simple displacement operation, they can jump immediately to next cyno, but there they would be unable to use their offensive modules, drones and remote repair for delay period (2-3 hours per EACH immediate jump or around 5 hours for the whole route, for example). Goal achieved: to decrease megablobs' (super)capitals mobility.
- delay timer for minimum 5 hours for subcapital ships to use 2nd titan portal jumping - so 'titan taxi - fight - titan taxi' tactics for short-term operations have to be impossible. In order to provide a possibility for reinforcement during big fights, pod kill must nullify this delay timer. Goal achieved: much more gate-to-gate movement in contested space with more opportunities for small- and med-size fights.
- significant increase of resources spending when using jump bridges, that belong to your coalition, but not your alliance. This must be made to prevent mega-coalitions formation (what we have now in 0.0) where sov holders can easily control one half of 0.0 using renters' infrastructure. Goal achieved: much more gate-to-gate movement in contested space with more opportunities for small- and med-size fights.

The common idea is to increase inertia and immobility of big blobs, providing more possibilities for lesser alliances/coalitions to attack sov space, moons and fleets.

Grinding structures like you do now is pretty much the same, except you do it with supers.....

And as far as I can tell, fighting over complexes to gain SOV is NOT PVE.
Take a look at the recent fights in Huola for example. That doesnt look much as PVE imo....
It only turns into PVE if the attacked party doesnt defend, then it is a bit of grinding down
those plexes (Like everything else in this game)

Sorry, check ingame map, or dotlan -> npc kills.
You will find many people that will join your ranks to earn isk for new ships.
You can also pull back pve alts to main alliance.

There will be fun for every one.