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Terrible Tory Tells Gold-Thieves To Toss Off
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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#1 - 2014-07-25 11:15:26 UTC
UK politician wants in-game theft considered a real crime

http://www.kitguru.net/gaming/matthew-wilson/uk-politician-wants-in-game-thieves-to-be-prosecuted/

Would EvE get a special exemption?

Is this something that appeals to anyone here?

And if so, really?!

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#2 - 2014-07-25 11:18:10 UTC
Can't get that into EVE, as it's not real theft
and the game works around the freedom to do so.

They'd have to close it if they had to remove this.

[i]"Don't look into another human's bowl to see how much he has ... ... look into his bowl to see if he has enough !" - Sol[/i]
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#3 - 2014-07-25 11:22:32 UTC
Christina Project wrote:
Can't get that into EVE, as it's not real theft
and the game works around the freedom to do so.

They'd have to close it if they had to remove this.


True.

Its the "in-game scammers" part that caught my attention

Of course, its come from a WoW-Playing Tory, so of course its a stupid idea

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#4 - 2014-07-25 11:25:33 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
True.

Its the "in-game scammers" part that caught my attention

Of course, its come from a WoW-Playing Tory, so of course its a stupid idea

That's easy enough to manage.

“Hello, this is the CCP GM team. We see here that you got another player in legal trouble over legitimate gameplay. You also claimed to own our data and assigned a real-life value to it. This means we now ban all of your accounts and payment methods for life for harassment and obvious intent to RMT.”

The whiners would run out pretty quickly… P
Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#5 - 2014-07-25 11:26:19 UTC
I can get behind prosecuting account hackers, but prosecuting people for in game scamming (as much as I hate the scamming) is just plain stupid.

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#6 - 2014-07-25 11:27:02 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Atomic Dove
He'd have a fit if he played Eve instead of WoW. Can you imagine the tear threads his unpaid lackeys would post for him?

The facebook thread is full of butthurt carebears, with the occasional Eve player stirring it up Twisted

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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#7 - 2014-07-25 11:30:20 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Atomic Dove
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
He'd have a fit if he played Eve instead of WoW. Can you imagine the tear threads his unpaid lackeys would post for him?


He's been divorced twice, plays WoW and promised his electorate to wear an Iron Maiden tshirt into the Commons, then said he wasnt allowed to, so didn't.

He also likes cycling for charity.

I think EvE would be the death of him.


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"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#8 - 2014-07-25 11:31:55 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Atomic Dove
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
He'd have a fit if he played Eve instead of WoW. Can you imagine the tear threads his unpaid lackeys would post for him?

He's been divorced twice, plays WoW and promised his electorate to wear an Iron Maiden tshirt into the Commons, then said he wasnt allowed to, so didn't.

He also likes cycling for charity.

I think EvE would be the death of him.

Is that an argument for or against him playing EVE?


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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#9 - 2014-07-25 11:33:00 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
I think EvE would be the death of him.
He's a politician, that's a good thing.

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Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#10 - 2014-07-25 11:34:00 UTC
Hypocrits and weaklings.

Democrazy is slavery.

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-07-25 11:37:31 UTC
He probably managed to get himself scammed even in WoW.

Taking the loss of a super-dragon-sword or whatever to a RL country Justice Minister probably breaks the world record of videogame tears.

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Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#12 - 2014-07-25 11:38:22 UTC
Well, hijacking accounts that you paid for should be treated same way as hijacking cars for example. After all you paid for it and somebody accessed it without your knowledge/permission, what's the difference between WoW account and Eve account and bank account or email account? In all cases it's not a matter of "what's inside" but a matter of your paid exclusive access to particular resource is being violated by unauthorized 3rd party.

Games are big business now and a lot of money is floating around but somehow governments only notice it when they want to collect taxes but when it comes to enforcing law games are for children and you should pickup proper adult hobby and who cares about your Sword of Ten Thousand Truths you paid 10k euro for.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#13 - 2014-07-25 11:41:12 UTC
They'd have a real hard time getting around the fact that the EULA, expressly agreed to by every player, says that any and all in game assets are the sole property of CCP.

Also, jeez. I had no idea there was this much butthurt in the UK. Talk about your first world problems. If people are genuinely so bored that they can agitate about videogame money, they need a war or something to get their heads out of their asses.

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Grenadier Greyback
May Cause Irritation
#14 - 2014-07-25 11:45:18 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Atomic Dove
On behalf of all British people I would like to apologise for this colossal thunder


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Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#15 - 2014-07-25 11:47:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

Also, jeez. I had no idea there was this much butthurt in the UK.


Yeah, they are called the English Blink (only j/k)

But seriously, I am behind people being taken away or fined or whatever for account hackery, but its the idea that in-game scamming should be illegal was what made me laugh like a drain.

Also get this;

In WoW; its illegal for a Rogue (aka a THIEF class in D&D) to steal money or scam, but racially motivated murder (ie PvP vs the Horde/Alliance) is completely legal.

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#16 - 2014-07-25 11:50:30 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
They'd have a real hard time getting around the fact that the EULA, expressly agreed to by every player, says that any and all in game assets are the sole property of CCP.

Also, jeez. I had no idea there was this much butthurt in the UK. Talk about your first world problems. If people are genuinely so bored that they can agitate about videogame money, they need a war or something to get their heads out of their asses.


I expect he had someone ninja-loot an item, or possibly roll need for an alt on a purple.

The worrying thing is that his position in government is not just an MP, he is the Secretary of the all party group on Intellectual Property.

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Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#17 - 2014-07-25 11:54:15 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

Also, jeez. I had no idea there was this much butthurt in the UK.


Yeah, they are called the English Blink (only j/k)

But seriously, I am behind people being taken away or fined or whatever for account hackery, but its the idea that in-game scamming should be illegal was what made me laugh like a drain.

Also get this;

In WoW; its illegal for a Rogue (aka a THIEF class in D&D) to steal money or scam, but racially motivated murder (ie PvP vs the Horde/Alliance) is completely legal.

What I am reading...

We should form an EVE guild in Wow,
creating characters to specifically hunt down and kill people all day,
to make them feel misrable... but within legal gameplay.


I'm in, we need just a few more peeps. XD

[i]"Don't look into another human's bowl to see how much he has ... ... look into his bowl to see if he has enough !" - Sol[/i]
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#18 - 2014-07-25 11:56:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Ramona McCandless
Christina Project wrote:

What I am reading...

We should form an EVE guild in Wow,
creating characters to specifically hunt down and kill people all day,
to make them feel misrable... but within legal gameplay.


I'm in, we need just a few more peeps. XD


What happened to the YOGZ? (Sorry that should be YOGS, yogz are a brand of yoghurts for children here)

Did they all trade in their mounts for Supers?

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#19 - 2014-07-25 11:58:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Christina Project wrote:
What I am reading...

We should form an EVE guild in Wow,
creating characters to specifically hunt down and kill people all day,
to make them feel misrable... but within legal gameplay.


I'm in, we need just a few more peeps. XD
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Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2014-07-25 12:01:34 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
I think EvE would be the death of him.

Is that an argument for or against him playing EVE?
I believe that can only be de decided after he did it... Straight

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

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