Market Discussions

About the only thing Jita controls is a position on the map. Though its nice to know we humans, our motives, property rights, dreams have been reduced to the same level as an imaginary solar system in a space ship game.

And to you Plleasure Hub, I'll grant you your poetic licence, but this is the MD forum, we speak economics and trade in here, and some of us are sticklers when it comes to definitions and terms. Misuse a word and expect to be taken to task on it, simple as that.

And so you should. But if I am using a word correctly, and you accuse me of misusing it, you can expect to be taken to task for that, too. I mean, if I were wrong in this case, I would admit it. But I am never wrong. About anything, really. I rest my fedora.

Mmk. But seriously, if you want to PM me a link to something or give an explanation as to how my use of the word is incorrect, I would be curious to know. I like words and meanings. :) And now back to plotting my takeover of New Eden.

Ah, so it is the part about a specific person, company, or government that has to be in control and taking action that we are differing on. I do not see why the collective actions of a group of people (all of us guilty Jita traders) establishing and preserving the monopoly is all that different than a company or government doing it. But I do see why you would say I am not using the word in the traditional fashion, if you insist the control element has to meet that strict definition.

Regarding the main topic, I might do some tinkering later with the system cost index figures and try to figure some things out. One thing I was wondering is about the formula for cost index:
system cost index = square root ( activity hours in system / global activity hours )

Does that mean if you take the sum of the squares of every system's cost index, you should get the value 1?

If so, could you then calculate the distribution of activity throughout the entire galaxy on a system-by-system basis?

I also want to run the numbers of some items to determine some low base cost to build time items. Using a system's % of global manufacturing activity, I should be able to generate an estimate of exactly how much ISK it would cost to increase a system's cost index by a set amount.

One thing you seem to have missed is that the cost index hasn't introduced a "new" way to move people out of Jita. Prior to Crius, manufacture and research lines were already limited as there were only so many slots, and to force people out of their use it was a simple as queuing a job for 30 days then cancelling it and queuing another. Cancelled jobs didn't free up their time, so it was theoretically possible for a single character to tie up every queue in a given system solo.

So if anything, this change has made it harder to do that, since now you would need to actually run your jobs through, pay more to do it, and run a hell of a lot more jobs through to bring the production down to 0%.

To break up Jita, you need to stop it being a place to trade, which is what it is used for. Destroying freighters in and out is one way to do it, but you would need to do so on a huge scale.

Groups with numbers could actually shut down Jita though. If a group like BNI or RVB coordinated a group of a few thousand people to simultaneously log in to Jita right after downtime and not log off all day, they'd fill most of the population cap with their own, preventing people getting in.