Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Today, even a bad PVPer can pay for his ships by merely cleaning a gate from NPCs. Risk free frig fights, yay!

its the fundament of bigger things, nobody is particulary elated of fundaments but when they arent there or are made badly and their house fall around their ears, you can bet that they will miss them.

Perhaps what null needs is balkinization as more smaller organizations might be more interesting than the current super sized blocks. How to do that is likely the question and the answer might be to look at the differences between null and wormholes. In wormholes the size if an organization seems to reach a certain level but no more and the organizations themselves are rather unstable. If you pack too many people into a wormhole system the tend to starve as the isk available for each member shrinks rapidly as more and more people are crammed in. If the organization tries to solve this by occupying two different locations they often find that they split into two different organizations as sharing interests and content with distant friends is difficult.

So, perhaps the solution is simply reducing the number of available pve plexes and resources such that it is too low to sustain overly large numbers while making travel more difficult by greatly decreasing the range of junpdrives, bridges, jump bridges and perhaps making smuggler stargates have inactive periods where they are not available for use. No doubt that this is a painful method but it would perhaps deal with the stagnation issue that the OP noted without requiring any significant new magic.

MOON income supported by jump drives. That is what 0.0 is about, not owning space.

I think CCP is already planning to add more systems with the upcoming expansions. Didn't they say they were putting in buildable gates that went to new areas of space at some point? I think we might get whole regions out of that, possibly.

well csm has been dominated for years by null sec alliances. if anything the csm have killed eve

The grand ideas get interesting but why must we reinvent the wheel here? Does this have to be a comprehensive plan of reform to the system? Why not start with a simple change by doubling or tripling the cost to cyno a fleet? Or make a cooldown timer that applies to a character. Or do both and just see how this affects the system.

One of my fondest early memories of Eve is when a friend and I finished an Angel site. He had his Noctis in the site cleaning it up. I had to go take a leak and walked away from my machine. I was gone for a few minutes at most. I came back and he was in station with me and his Noctis had been destroyed. In the time it took me to take care of my business, a gang had synoed in a fleet of about twelve players using a Titan bridge and had blown up his Noctis and then cynoed out again. Pretty amusing but I feel that something is wrong in the game when that sort of gameplay makes economic sense.

Manny, I was wondering what if hacking was a way to make systems vulnerable. You hack the system (15mins like you said) then it gets a RF timer (less than a day in my opinion.) Systems with station can have services hacked, but without a station the system can be flipped in less than 25 hours.

ALSO CCP LET US DESTROY STATIONS!!!

I'm trying to project what any given change will have on group dynamics and the projection and consolidation of power. Given enough time, the present system has resulted in people organizing into large groups for mutual protection, aided by vast intelligence networks both from players ("boots on the ground") and automated (API).

One possibility to remove the centralization of power would be to remove the instant access to information that we've come to rely on to support the "absentee landlord" system we have today. So, it's time to pull out the What-if Machine.


What if we allowed the disruption of communications between players and structures.

Have a deployable object which, when placed within say 50Km of a structure, disrupts the communications link between players and the structure. This would jam all outbound communications (under attack, reinforced, API retrieval of information, etc. ) from the structure until the jammer is destroyed. This wouldn't stop groups from defending, but it would slow the flow of information vital to the defense and utilization of unattended assets.

The extent of this communications disruption is debatable. In my view, I think all automated communications should be vulnerable to this effect. This would include polling market orders and contracts of a station remotely, communicating with planets, and the sending of sovereignty broadcasts. On this last point, I also believe that the "unclaimed" sovereignty status should be removed and replaced with "unknown" and allow a jammer to induce this status. A system is only considered to have changed hands after a different claim is observed.


I also have another idea that has been hashed to death already, but I'm in favour of removing local chat in sov null by default and making an anchorable structure at a POS provide that function. Maybe something of similar size and placement as a jump bridge. Communications if you want it, disruptable if someone wants to get rid of it.

Additionally, it might be fun to toy with the idea of intelligence-gathering devices that would relay to the deploying player/corp/alliance some system stats. I haven't fleshed out this one though, but it might be a nice counter-idea to counter-intelligence.



So anyway, that's just my 2c on the idea. I like the ideas proposed in this thread regarding the limitation of power projection and thought I'd throw in a couple more to add to the pile of possibilities. I think information warfare should be more flexible in allowing the disruption of these networks of automated tools that established groups have to defend vast swaths of space.

What exactly is stopping you from entering nullsec?
1. Dont tell me you cant pass through gatecamps, and with those new anti-bubble ceptors it's cheaper than ever.
2. Dont tell me you cant dock, as there are gazilions of NPC stations in nullsec. Also, there are dockable stations in Provi. BTW, people in WHs dont even have docks at all, and I never see them whining about it.
3. Dont tell me you cant live in deep sov space either. You can set a POS, or - it you're space poor - anchor a depot.
4. Now if you're a lazy spoiled carebear, and want to dock in sov space with -1.0 sec.status and run anomalies all day long - then guess what? You can do that too! Just need to rent that system.

So again, what is your problem? This is EVE. This is nullsec. HTFU, and dont expect you'll get everything you desire on a silver platter.