Wormholes

Since when do we pay the slaves a salary?

We could always pay them a salary and then turn around and charge them for food and housing. If CCP can be creative, so can we :)

And yeah, the job install costs that come from corp wallet when using POS facilities is the same thing that exists in stations that comes from player/installer wallets. Since these jobs are technically corp-owned, as is everything in the POS, it comes out of corp wallet.

Those who have access to perform industry at a POS have access to at least one wallet division, usually one that is perpetually empty and marked as insecure, etc. If a job installer has no other permissions to other corp wallet divisions, his or her default corp wallet division is the one used for industry. A Director or Accountant would have access to the rest of the corp wallet, and might have a different default corp wallet division.

The job install costs are taken from your default corp wallet division, or you receive an error if no funds are available.

I understod that the extra materials are just added to the "base" materials

"Extra Materials have been removed from the game. This mainly affects Tech I and Tech II manufacturing and research

All Extra Materials have been moved as regular Materials instead"

Having done no industry evar aside from making blocks for our towers, I don't care that we now have this fictional cost for labor/upkeep/whatever, as long as the cost balance is like this


HS starbase > LS Starbase > NS Starbase > Tower

I uhh.......well I uhmmm..

Wow...just WOW.



EDIT: Wait a damn minute ..you mean all that food that's been missing from my CHA ...THOSE asshats were taking my **** ?!

Aren't you supposed to be lurking...

This is probably one of the least amusing trolling Dev posts I've read in quite a while. Yes, yes, your WH POS tower "workers" unionized. You folks are off your rockers. You know that? Tilted right the F out of it.

Seriously ranking near one of the most useless patches thus far in terms value add to the players. Nevermind increasing costs (unnecessarily) for people who don't have free NPC stations to call home, or who have massive renter+goo driven sheeple fueling towers from an alliance pool of endless ISK. /rant

Now that is out of the system, it's a bad (or at the very least goofy) idea all designed to act as an ISK sink for CCP. That is Crius in a nutshell. Prices for everything go up. ISK is vanishsed into the ether that surrounds us.
To add insult to injury, there's the very real and inexcusable oversight that allows "free intel" into neighboring wh systems via the industry team changes. Remove the API for kill details, but expose w-space build jobs and owning corp/alliance....? I know (hope????) that wasn't intentional but it shows a lack of thoroughness in the run up to "Cry?Us!"

This update wasn't, apparently QA'd very well as it relates to WH space and the people living here. As evidenced by the corp wallet issue and its absolute reliance on the failure of POS/Corp role security. Workarounds devised by players will, again, "deliver us from evil" but it would be really nice if changes to ingame systems/effects/etc were thoroughly tested against as many use cases as possible. Or at the very least the really obvious ones like wspace and poses.


By the way, on the topic of "Teams" in w-space....how is it (since CCP is getting all seriozbizniss regarding lore and game logic for the teams, the whole "unionize" thing - your words not mine) do these teams manage to navigate between the various wormhole systems with nary a peep or ship or scanner and must (by game logic) always know exactly how to get to the right system? Kind of a crappy logic gap in the whole "your POS workers have unionized huehuehue" inane method of removing player earned ISK.

LOL I knew that one would come out.

But yes, I know about your three timelines. And I'm not knocking Fozzie popping in to this far flung and oft-forgotten corner of the verse. But rather knocking his mocking tone. vOv.
And yes - I've been in WHs since Apocrypha and know that CCP mucking about with WH is one of the few constants we have. Your point is taken.

My criticisms stand such as they are and I hope that CCP quickly sorts them out and begins/continues work on game play enhancements that better w-space. As this is literally the only part of EVE that I enjoy.

Just needed some cathartic release of spleen since I'm stuck reading forums and studying for exams with no one to hunt and kill until I can rejoin my remaining friends in w-space.

Hopefully not the kind of lighting that melts graphics cards

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