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Kera Royard

Doomheim

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#1 - 2011-12-06 00:38:39 UTC

So I moved into a WH a c2, and I am wondering what is the best BC to be using to clear sites. Using a drake right now and it isn't going very smoothly, as I don't have great shield or Missile skills but I do have good gunnery and armor skills. Just looking for opinions and peoples experience with flying other BCs in c2s to see which one I should fly.

Flying a drake right now even though my skills are subpar is because it was free and my corp is mainly shield tankers. Smarter Idea to switch to a Shield tanked cane, or is a Harb or Myrm a better choice? Just looking for some friendly help.

Derath Ellecon

University of Caille

Gallente Federation

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#2 - 2011-12-06 00:43:17 UTC

Kera Royard wrote:

Just finish training the drake.

Doomheim 69
mkjkgkvk Melkan Doomheim Likes received: 69	#3 - 2011-12-06 00:46:15 UTC drake will just get better and better, best tool for the job really

Dos Pollos Hermanos 58
Nor Tzestu Dos Pollos Hermanos Likes received: 58	#4 - 2011-12-06 01:20:01 UTC 2 BC? PVE? Yup, use a drake. Anything else would be uncivilized.

Hedion University Amarr Empire 15
Space Momma Hedion University Amarr Empire Likes received: 15	#5 - 2011-12-06 01:44:41 UTC 1 drake, confirming.

Goose99

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#6 - 2011-12-06 02:29:43 UTC

Kera Royard wrote:

Passive harb is lol and not passive. Try passive projectile myrm, 320 hp/s peak recharge instead of drake's 230 hp/s, at comparable resists.

To mare

Advanced Technology

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#7 - 2011-12-06 05:32:57 UTC

Goose99 wrote:

Kera Royard wrote:

Passive harb is lol and not passive. Try passive projectile myrm, 320 hp/s peak recharge instead of drake's 230 hp/s, at comparable resists.

yeah
too bad the drones of the myrm wil get popped by sleepers
and the AC w/o TE gyro will do terrible dps at terrible range

Goose99

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#8 - 2011-12-06 05:45:10 UTC

To mare wrote:

Goose99 wrote:

Kera Royard wrote:

Passive harb is lol and not passive. Try passive projectile myrm, 320 hp/s peak recharge instead of drake's 230 hp/s, at comparable resists.

yeah
too bad the drones of the myrm wil get popped by sleepers
and the AC w/o TE gyro will do terrible dps at terrible range

Myrm's drone has been nerfed ages ago into the ground, 75 mbit, lol. Weapon in drake is also without bcs and rigor, except Myrm has enough lows to spare for at least a few dmg mods, while drake has 4 lows, and any sacrifice of spr butchers the regen for sleeper sites. That's compounded by him having high gun skills and crap missile skills. Lousy choices all around either way, it's passive bcs.

To mare

Advanced Technology

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#9 - 2011-12-06 05:49:20 UTC

Goose99 wrote:

To mare wrote:

Goose99 wrote:

Kera Royard wrote:

Passive harb is lol and not passive. Try passive projectile myrm, 320 hp/s peak recharge instead of drake's 230 hp/s, at comparable resists.

yeah
too bad the drones of the myrm wil get popped by sleepers
and the AC w/o TE gyro will do terrible dps at terrible range

still with comparable tank the drake is far more effective in dps/dps projection than the myrm

Goose99

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#10 - 2011-12-06 06:02:02 UTC | Edited by: Goose99

To mare wrote:

Goose99 wrote:

To mare wrote:

Goose99 wrote:

Kera Royard wrote:

Passive harb is lol and not passive. Try passive projectile myrm, 320 hp/s peak recharge instead of drake's 230 hp/s, at comparable resists.

yeah
too bad the drones of the myrm wil get popped by sleepers
and the AC w/o TE gyro will do terrible dps at terrible range

still with comparable tank the drake is far more effective in dps/dps projection than the myrm

It's got the range, but dps will be crap, especially with low skills and no bcs/rigors. With comparable tank, the myrm will have dmg mods, make use of his high gunnery skills, just less range. Passive cane also works, but with much lower tank and thus no lows to spare. Harby is not workable for passive.

Dead Red Eye 183
Jojo Jackson Dead Red Eye Likes received: 183	#11 - 2011-12-06 08:18:39 UTC Hurrican will do fine up to C4 WHs. Either as passive shield tank or nano-Cain. If you know how to hold transveral low you will be faster with the Cain then with a Drake. It's just not "jump in and auto kill" ;). You have to do something to survive g. Why the hell can't I fitt capital repairs or shield booster on an Orca ... it's an CAPITAL ship!

The Scope Gallente Federation 56
Salvia Olima The Scope Gallente Federation Likes received: 56	#12 - 2011-12-06 08:44:00 UTC Or use a Templar, an amarr fighter drone used by carriers.

Green Seekers 633
Zyella Stormborn Green Seekers Likes received: 633	#13 - 2011-12-07 08:03:01 UTC It may be boring for some, but Drake = top spot for pve in there. Just my opinion but I would put the others in order of Harby / Cane / Myrm. This is wormhole mind you, not mission (although drake would be top in mission as well). There is a special Hell for people like that, Right next to child molestors, and people that talk in the theater. ~Firefly

Aliastra Gallente Federation 116
Archare Aliastra Gallente Federation Likes received: 116	#14 - 2011-12-07 08:15:12 UTC In case no one told you..... Drake ./thread

Zoofelynn

The Scope

Gallente Federation

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#15 - 2011-12-07 12:09:27 UTC

So I guess I could ask my question in this thread without starting my own..

I'm about to venture into a C2 wormhole and I have absolutely no experience regarding wormholes or sleepers. I can fly all armor tanked subcap Amarr and Minmatar ships which rely on Gunnery and I wonder if there is any specific ship within these boundaries which would do the job the best? Preferably excluding the t3s since I rather learn the ropes before I start bringing in the expensive stuff.

Hopefully someone can help me out a bit here! :)

Doomheim 2,092
Tanya Powers Doomheim Likes received: 2,092	#16 - 2011-12-07 13:03:23 UTC Passive tank Drake.

luvmehard

Shakor Freight and Mining Service

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#17 - 2011-12-07 13:37:24 UTC

C2?

[Hurricane, insertnamehere]
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Shield Power Relay II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
425mm AutoCannon II, EMP M
Core Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I
Salvager I

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I

Warrior II x5
Warrior II x1

Extender rigs instead of Purgers, because amount of shields is more important than regen. Use T1 meta 4 SPRs if you can't fit T2 (they are the same, only difference is price and skill req.). Most important thing: KEEP MOVING.

Drake is easier, with this 'cane you won't go brain dead of boredom.

.derp.

Diomidis

Pod Liberation Authority

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#18 - 2011-12-07 22:41:05 UTC

Decent active hardener drake can do C3 WH work potently...soloing them is slow, but not terribly slow - as good as or better than most other BCs tbh. Neuting is not a huge deal in C3s, I doubt there will be any in C2s, so the whole passive regen idea is simply because it's better than active, not cause it has to be passively tanked, and active hardeners (2x invul, 1x named or faction photon, or EM amp if you wish) work a charm.

Has a utility slot that can fit a core launcher too, or a salvager if you have other ways to insure you are getting out.

"War does not determine who is right - only who is left." -- Bertrand Russell

Derath Ellecon

University of Caille

Gallente Federation

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#19 - 2011-12-08 00:14:03 UTC

I can't talk to many of the other ships, but I relucantly went the Drake route for WH . I had tried a Myrmidon (all gallente) and watched a friend in a harby. (C2)

The issue, aside from the drones *(which is true they get targetted. I didnt lose many). The issue is with optimal and falloff.

In every WH I have run sites (C1-C3) you have to deal with extremes of range. You have frigs and cruiers that burn in FAST to close range. Then you have Cruisers and Battleships that hang way out at long ranges.

So if you fit for short range, you end up burning out to the battleships (annoying). Or you fit for long range, and have trouble with the short range sleepers. Or deal with drones for them.

Or you go drake. Sure Scourge missiles don't do as well against the close up frigs, but the key is they hit. An artillery fit Myrmidon would be miss miss miss agaisnts the frigs orbiting at 5,000m.

Bottom line, other ships work. I have a friend who solos C3 sites with a Sleipnir. But a drake is like easymode for wormholes.

Akavhi Guard Fraternity. 7
Adonlude Akavhi Guard Fraternity. Likes received: 7	#20 - 2011-12-08 18:29:50 UTC I would be original and use an active tanked Ferox. They dont suck so bad anymore.