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Ruune en Gravonere
Running with Dogs
Northern Coalition.
#1 - 2014-07-23 13:42:33 UTC
So... i've heard the arguments about it being to expensive to create avatars that could wear whatever was in store... i.e. wearing a the fairly simple mens dress shirt, that looks like a uniform shirt, rather than the crop top that passes for the female version...

oh and by the way if you truly wanted not to be so sexist CCP all you need to do is design clothes for the female avatars that offered choice which would include less sexualised option, you know, like a uniform shirt that would be recognised in any military setting on the face of the planet...

but i'm really posting here to say... that if we are going to be able to wander around outside our ships (which we can do in the capt's quarters and much more hopefully in the future) and you do want it to be an immersive rpg experience then maybe you could bear in mind that this is an rpg spaceships sim and your not trying to sell spaceships using the usual 'car' sales tactics using scantilly clad slim female models draped all over them...

this is not just a woman's gripe... i've had plenty of chats with guys in this game and others, and theres evidence from various surveys that everyone... all gamers... given the choice want... choice... want to be able to customise and dress their avatars as uniquely as possible and quite a lot of guys who play using female avatars dont want to make them into barbie dolls...

so spare a thought for choice... find a way to build in from the start... and if you can why dont you just stop putting such stereotypical clothing on the market for the female avatars in eve...

give us choice and we'll give you our isk and real life money... it makes business sense... and you know it might just be one of the reasons you dont have as many women gamers playing eve... just saying.. Pirate
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#2 - 2014-07-23 13:48:34 UTC
Ehm, pixel world needs to be sexy, for big fat ugly whales I can look outside my RL window.

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Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#3 - 2014-07-23 14:04:10 UTC
I wont be satisfied until i can go full nude avatar
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#4 - 2014-07-23 14:05:32 UTC
Ruune en Gravonere wrote:
So... i've heard the arguments about it being to expensive to create avatars that could wear whatever was in store... i.e. wearing a the fairly simple mens dress shirt, that looks like a uniform shirt, rather than the crop top that passes for the female version...

oh and by the way if you truly wanted not to be so sexist CCP all you need to do is design clothes for the female avatars that offered choice which would include less sexualised option, you know, like a uniform shirt that would be recognised in any military setting on the face of the planet...


I entirely agree

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Lothras Andastar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-07-23 14:05:44 UTC
CCP subscribes to the Ubisoft approach when it comes to females in games. It's too hard to nail some jelly pads to a male rig and be done with it.

Because the Legacy Code has too much Psssssssssssssssh, nothing will ever get fixed until CCP stop wasting money on failed sparkle MMOs and instead rewrite the entire backend of EvE from scratch.
Yarda Black
The Black Redemption
#6 - 2014-07-23 14:07:12 UTC
Ruune en Gravonere wrote:
scantilly clad slim female models draped all over them...


Agreed! Its just... I cant find my bloody shirt. It used to be right here!
Mila Black
The Black Redemption
#7 - 2014-07-23 14:08:15 UTC
Yarda Black wrote:
Ruune en Gravonere wrote:
scantilly clad slim female models draped all over them...


Agreed! Its just... I cant find my bloody shirt. It used to be right here!


Yeah... sorry about that :)
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-07-23 14:35:12 UTC
I'd enjoy some older guys/girls too.

Like, looking 80+ years old.

I've yet to see a male avatar look older than 40ish, and a female one look older than 30ish.

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Trosh Aumer
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2014-07-23 14:38:37 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
I'd enjoy some older guys/girls too.

Like, looking 80+ years old.

I've yet to see a male avatar look older than 40ish, and a female one look older than 30ish.


Probably because we are all immortal and every time we get a couple wrinkles you can just self-destruct your pod and jump in a new clone that's like 20 years old perfect health.
Archibald Thistlewaite III
The Royal Society for the Prevention of Miners
#10 - 2014-07-23 14:51:37 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
I'd enjoy some older guys/girls too.

Like, looking 80+ years old.

I've yet to see a male avatar look older than 40ish, and a female one look older than 30ish.


I look like I'm about 70 if that helps.

User of 'Bumblefck's Luscious & Luminous Mustachio Wax'
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2014-07-23 14:57:15 UTC
Rowells wrote:
I wont be satisfied until i can go full nude avatar

*gasp* He's putting impure thoughts in the minds of our new PEGI 12 players... Lets crucify and quarter him and paint our protest banners for a more modest world with his blood and innards. He deserves no less. Shocked

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.
Debora Tsung
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2014-07-23 14:58:42 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
I'd enjoy some older guys/girls too.

Like, looking 80+ years old.

I've yet to see a male avatar look older than 40ish, and a female one look older than 30ish.


Look no furtcher (¬‿¬)

Stupidity should be a bannable offense.

Fighting back is more fun than not.

Sticky: AFK Cloaking Thread It's not pretty, but it's there.
CompleteFailure
DAWGS Corp.
SL0W CHILDREN AT PLAY
#13 - 2014-07-23 15:08:35 UTC
I like boobies.
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-07-23 15:13:54 UTC
Debora Tsung wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
I'd enjoy some older guys/girls too.

Like, looking 80+ years old.

I've yet to see a male avatar look older than 40ish, and a female one look older than 30ish.


Look no furtcher (¬‿¬)
:) maybe 40ish?

Seriously, old people have very interesting faces and more diversity would be nice.

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#15 - 2014-07-23 15:15:53 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
I'd enjoy some older guys/girls too.

Like, looking 80+ years old.

I've yet to see a male avatar look older than 40ish, and a female one look older than 30ish.
This guy. I wish I could remember his name.

Who put the goat in there?
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-07-23 15:20:24 UTC
Shederov Blood wrote:
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
I'd enjoy some older guys/girls too.

Like, looking 80+ years old.

I've yet to see a male avatar look older than 40ish, and a female one look older than 30ish.
This guy. I wish I could remember his name.
An unhealthy 45y-old? Lol

This comes to mind, but he still looks 50 max.

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!
Solecist Project
#17 - 2014-07-23 15:20:28 UTC
Rowells wrote:
I wont be satisfied until i can go full nude avatar

Oh btw, that's doable... but you'd be seriously disappointed.

I can't trigger the naked glitch at will ... yet ... but let me tell you that
your imagination is far better than what you'd see on screen.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Lachra
Lachra Corporation
#18 - 2014-07-23 15:23:24 UTC
Ruune en Gravonere wrote:
quite a lot of guys who play using female avatars dont want to make them into barbie dolls...


Then use something in your inventory called 'the imagination'. Unsure as to what this topic is actually about. EvE has a powerful avatar customisation package > use it > don't make your avatar look like a barbie doll.

TL;DR: Stop. Think. Use brain.
Solecist Project
#19 - 2014-07-23 15:31:56 UTC
Lachra wrote:
Ruune en Gravonere wrote:
quite a lot of guys who play using female avatars dont want to make them into barbie dolls...


Then use something in your inventory called 'the imagination'. Unsure as to what this topic is actually about. EvE has a powerful avatar customisation package > use it > don't make your avatar look like a barbie doll.

TL;DR: Stop. Think. Use brain.

Said by a truly good looking woman.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Zimmy Zeta
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2014-07-23 16:07:58 UTC
Agreed.

In an effort to raise awareness about the continuous exploitation of women by a privileged, cis-gendered phallocratic society, I decided to wear the least sexualized item, the grey sackcloth dress.

But holy f**k, I make this sh*t look good.

I'd like to apologize for the poor quality of the post above and sincerely hope you didn't waste your time reading it. Yes, I do feel bad about it.
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