Crime & Punishment

I want warn you of an exploiting player, who joins your corp, scans you down and can legally attack you without concord. He first joined my corporation, then he scanned me down in Barkrik and came with a paladin and attacked me without concord came and killed him.

So, I lost a Vargur with almost one billion isk worth of fitting.

However, for me, it seems like an exploit, because, normally to attack another player, you need to be in the same corporation and same fleet, in order to attack another one without getting concorded. That guy swiches from corporation to corporation and hunts for mission runners. This is for me also abusing the game mechanics to gain isk. We werent in a duel and i didnt had a suspect or criminal flag, that allowed him to legally attack me.


Is that normal, that corp members can legally attack each other even without beeing in the same fleet? What is more, I also didnt got a duel flag to him. So my first thought, when he started shooting me, was to kick him off of the corp, so that then concord attacks. But it was already too late. When i kicked him off when he started shooting me, would then concord have attacked him?

Working as intended. Otherwise you couldnt target your corpmates to use say a remote shield repper. Just learn to background check your recruits first...

Being in a Fleet has no effect on any aggression mechanics or any weapons timers.

Corp mates have always been able to shoot each other, its designed that way so no exploit was used.

You can't kick corp members whilst they are in space. Its is this way to stop people being kicked from their corp and getting concorded.

The solution is the rest of your corp mates. If you had asked some of them to fleet up and warp to you, you could of killed his shiney ship.

Edit for link: Crimewatch devblog

Your corp is "Bring back can flipping." Your thread is about corp mates shooting other corp mates. I am completely confused about why you have an issue with this mechanic that has been around since Adam and Steve were first placed on this earth by Allah in the name of Jehovah.

5/10

Would it though? I think removing awoxing would be one more step on the road to getting NPC carebears to actually play the game with others. You say "perform background checks", but no background checks will stop people who are determined to come in and blow people up. And it's not like it's done as a method of creating content, it's done to annoy.

The end result of awoxing is that players stay out of player corporations and either stay in NPC corps or roll their own corps. If that's an end result you are happy with then fair enough, play on. I'll continue to advise people to stick to those NPC corps if they want to be sure to avoid awoxing.

And by all means, kill it forward. You certainly won't find me shedding a tear over some nub getting vapourised. I'm all for unwanted PvP being kept, I'm just not a supporter of mechanics which push people into solo, risk averse play.

I must respectfully disagree. I have several cohorts who pay for their EVE subscriptions by AWOXing corps and ransoming players. It is a legitimate occupation in EVE.



The end result of AWOXing SHOULD be to tighten your corporate security down, maybe NOT fly that epic faction battleship with "the new guy", or fleet up with your corpmates and BLAP THE AWOXER.

Nothing in EVE is meant to be 100% secure -- including corporations. Further heretical replies to this topic will result in additional carebears being exposed to vacuum in your name.

THAT part is broken... and I think we have all expected it to change for some time.

But until it goes away....

In my pre-null days I'd only ever go in corps on my own or NPC ones, with perhaps small low risk stints in others. It's simply not worth the risk to hope someone vets their members enough to not put you at risk, and there's no benefits to being in a random corp over your own alt corp. It may not move all the NPC players across, but it would certainly help.

So keep the awoxing. I live in null where anyone can shoot anyone so I don't particularly care, just don't run around crying about "risk averse" NPC players if you aren't willing to compromise.

Maybe it should be, though it's arguable that security can ever be that tight. Sad fact is though mate, that's NOT the end result. The end result is that the vast majority of highsec players are in solo/alt corps and NPC corps. More awoxing won't make that better.

And I don't think it ever should be 100% safe. Removing awoxing still wouldn't make you 100% safe, it would just take away the low effort piracy that makes corps so unappealing.

And please, proceed to kill non-stop for all eternity mailing out my name in bulk. If they respond, I'll even tell them I authorized it and that they are idiots. I'll then explain to them that awoxing is bad for the game and they should jump on the forums and repeat my arguments for me, thus completing this wonderful circle. You killing randoms isn't suddenly going to make me abandon my opinions.

Totally agree, but what would determine if a corp mate is fighting another corp mate? Is there a limited engagement associated with intra-corp combat? I think the only way to implement this is to have corp members go suspect if they attack other corp members. which I'm not sure that people want.