EVE New Citizens Q&A

No real question this time, just perhaps providing you with a laugh.

Can you top this cascade of elementary noobishness?

Just left station to go for some exploration, and realize Im out there with the wrong ship, the Punisher instead of the Magnate. I want to re-dock but then someone challenges me for a duell. Not what I had my mind at, but since Id never done that I think, ok, lets try. I accept the challenge, without any clue how the procedure would be. Id assumed one would talk a bit first, agree on some location to go to for the fight or what ships to use. But no: I am shot at immediately...while I hadn't even realized the name of my opponent. What to do? What to do? Oh, yeah, I should change to the "fight"-tab on my overview. Yeah, something's blinking there. What now? Shoot at it! Doesnt work...oh, yeah, I should lock him first. Im deep in armor already. Im shooting, or at least I think I do. Im not sure, Im not even sure if the thing I see on the screen is my own ship. Oh, I should activate tactical..BOOM. Then: BOOM. My mind gets transfered back to the medical bay.

I say gf and briefly explain why I actually didnt provide a gl. He invites me for another one and I accept, telling him that I first need to buy and fit another ship. I do that, hastily, then I'm out again. Another challenge pops up and I accept. Damit, my guns are not grouped. I fiddle around, but cant group them. F*** it. I lock him....wondering, though, why he doesnt blink this time. Im shooting, but no damage seems to reach him. Should I go closer? Oh............... actually I might have better also put some crystals in my lasers......so much for hasty fitting. I go BOOM. Then BOOM again ...and while my consciousness gets transfered back to another clone I realize I didnt upgrade clone after the first podding. F***.

I still type gf again into the still open private chat and he tells me: you seem to have accepted someone else's challenge. I didnt shoot at you. So appently this time I was trying to shoot at the wrong person with my empty lasers.

Honest to god: I didnt make this up.

Oh, and just realize that I actually DO have a question: My security setting is at green....would I need to change that for a duel in high-sec?

Good story. I will post 2 of mine when I get back to the PC as it requires too much effort to do it on the phone.

As for your Q:

No, safety green lets you shoot legal targets in highsec, when you engage in a duel you and the other party get a limited engagement timer which makes that person a legal target too you.

You only NEED to change the safety setting in highsec if:
You want to steal something in space or do another action that result in a 'Suspect' flag, fornwhich your safety setting should be at least Yellow.

Or if you want to shoot a random person, which will make you a 'Criminal' and thuz requires your safety to be set to Red.

On green you can shoot legal targets at any point, this includes:
* Fellow corp members if you are in a player corp.
* War targets if your player corp is at war.
* Suspect pilots
* Criminal pilots
* Outlaws (people with a sec status of -5.0 or lower)
* People you have a limited engagemant timer with.
* People you have killrights against.

Nice story.

Sorry to hear you had such a bad day, but good on you for diving in and having a crack twice, and seeming to come out the other side laughing at your own oversights. Better luck next time!

My first T3 loss was to a control tower, lost two more recently to faction police because I'm so awesome at this game. We all have our noob moments, don't worry! Some more than others.

The EVE learning curve is more than steep.

It's said to take 10,000 hours to become master at nearly anything.

In EVE it takes 10,000 ships.

I can not top that as i am unwilling to do what you did ..

I have never accepted a duel. I assume that even the day 2 player will kick my butt . and hit the "no thanks" button.

Lame ? Yes. Am I ok with being lame? Yes.

Your tale of woe makes almost possitive you will do well in eve . i think you "get it" even more than i do. Please carry on .. although i would suggest joining a corp -- maybe even something like RvB to get some pvp skills up in a more .. structured environment.

Join the group, we've got Jackets!

May your explosions be pretty and plentiful :P

I am collecting quite an extensive list of deaths and so are my fellow lowbie PvP friends in EVE.
It's all about learning though :)

Shoot me a conversation if you want to fly sometime :D it'll be fun ;)

I approve of your PVP learning plan and have sent you 20 million ISK to help fund it.

As promised, here are my 2 stories that easily top off yours


1.

Imagine me just being in EVE. About 1 month old and just decided to join my first corp.
Not knowing what I know now, I joined the first possible corp that spotted my interest and it looked fine.
1 week later, wardec. None of the "vets" told me what that means and what you should and shouldn't do.
Let's just say that by trial and error (mainly error...aka 5 ships) I learned not to undock from a station when there are 3 war targets right outside on the undock.


2.

Fast forward just a couple of months (maybe 2). I received a good x-mas bonus from work, so cashed a part of it in for some PLEX in Jita. Now, I notice that if I do 3 jumps, I can sell them for 380mil instead of the 365mil in Jita (yeah, that was the price of a PLEX back then), so bought myself a Badger and loaded it up with the PLEX, a Hulk and Covetor and some skillbooks and hit the undock button...you can guess how long that Badger survived in Jita.


Ooh, and all 4 PLEX did drop, so someone was happy, but it wasn't me.




For more stupid things, see the thread that Shah linked above.

A buddy of mine once went AFK in a lvl4 mission without turning his shield booster on. The only thing more embarrassing than losing a two billion tengu is losing it to mission rats.

That method is in my opinion the single best way to get into PvP quickly. Do it, seriously it isn't just something people say.