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2 trillion isk and 4,380 days to research a carrier BPO? R U on glue?

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Scyllyn
Asteroid Farm Unlimited
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2014-07-23 05:08:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Scyllyn
Ohh and this screenshot is using a POS lab by the way....

http://i.imgur.com/BEki5AS.png

Note that the screenshot is for only 3 levels of TE ! so you need to multiply the time and cost by 10 to be at 10 ME & 20 TE!

At this rate I will never ever buy a capital BPO.

GG CCP....

Thanks for 9 years of entertainment

Good luck your going to need it....

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Eric Xallen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#2 - 2014-07-23 05:16:44 UTC
Its not a research station
MicDeath Titan
No Mans Corp
#3 - 2014-07-23 05:17:33 UTC
When they said they are planning for the long term.....jeesus. Nah, nope hell no.
Haffsol
#4 - 2014-07-23 05:56:44 UTC
it's 438D not 4380D

just saying

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Nadine Jones
Holes with Worms
#5 - 2014-07-23 06:06:02 UTC
...and 200 billion, not 2 trillion
Scyllyn
Asteroid Farm Unlimited
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2014-07-23 06:45:42 UTC
Look better that figure there is for ONLY 3!! levels of time efficence so multiply that by 10 like I did please!
Scyllyn
Asteroid Farm Unlimited
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2014-07-23 06:49:26 UTC
Eric Xallen wrote:
Its not a research station


Like I said its in a lab on a POS
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#8 - 2014-07-23 06:52:01 UTC
Move to 4H-YJZ, only 3 jumps away and it will be totaly other story.

Absolutely free head start for newcomers!. Just click the link and get extra 250 000 SP!
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#9 - 2014-07-23 07:12:14 UTC
Try a quote for +1 level.
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2014-07-23 07:56:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Rowells
Scyllyn wrote:
Look better that figure there is for ONLY 3!! levels of time efficence so multiply that by 10 like I did please!

why are you multiplying by 10?

I'm looking at 888D 23H20 to get perfect in both and approx. 856mil to get ME10 and TE20.

Or are you trying run it 10 times?
Barton Breau
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-07-23 08:01:18 UTC
Rowells wrote:
Scyllyn wrote:
Look better that figure there is for ONLY 3!! levels of time efficence so multiply that by 10 like I did please!

why are you multiplying by 10?


Good question, the cost now scales in a fashion of skills, higher level costing significantly more time. Take 9 to 10 ME == 600 days for thanatos.
Rowells
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2014-07-23 08:06:24 UTC
Barton Breau wrote:
Rowells wrote:
Scyllyn wrote:
Look better that figure there is for ONLY 3!! levels of time efficence so multiply that by 10 like I did please!

why are you multiplying by 10?


Good question, the cost now scales in a fashion of skills, higher level costing significantly more time. Take 9 to 10 ME == 600 days for thanatos.

thats without skills im assuming?
Barton Breau
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-07-23 08:13:54 UTC
Rowells wrote:
Barton Breau wrote:
Rowells wrote:
Scyllyn wrote:
Look better that figure there is for ONLY 3!! levels of time efficence so multiply that by 10 like I did please!

why are you multiplying by 10?


Good question, the cost now scales in a fashion of skills, higher level costing significantly more time. Take 9 to 10 ME == 600 days for thanatos.

thats without skills im assuming?


Probably, its from the dev blog tables, dunno if you expect a significant change for a 25% reduction.
Qoi
Exert Force
#14 - 2014-07-23 08:28:48 UTC
You are not supposed to research a capital BPO to perfect levels. Why do you think that takes 9 years for a titan? Research it to something reasonable and you are okay.

http://eve-industry.org
Ixidor Zorander
Coffee Club of Cautelous Chaps
#15 - 2014-07-23 09:41:40 UTC
2 trillion?? psh chump change, im sure we will see a proliferation on a mass scale of me 10 cap bpo's within weeks.... that or the new guys that wanna compete with individuals with perfect ME bpos can go find a really tall bridge.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#16 - 2014-07-23 10:31:22 UTC
Advantage to the vets who have 10/20 capital bpo who's with me don't worries copy times now so we can sell you our bpcs. And here i thought ccp wanted this change to help get newb players into it not lock them out of capitals

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Motorbit
Moira.
#17 - 2014-07-23 11:52:40 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
And here i thought ccp wanted this change to help get newb players into it not lock them out of capitals

so you realy felt for that newspeak noise?
Lugh Crow-Slave
#18 - 2014-07-23 11:58:36 UTC
Motorbit wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
And here i thought ccp wanted this change to help get newb players into it not lock them out of capitals

so you realy felt for that newspeak noise?

Not sure what you mean by news peak noise but I am aware that there was an error in calculating the cost for me and tell that was already addressed by ccp before this part went up

BLOPS Hauler
The 16.8km Bubble
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#19 - 2014-07-23 12:50:04 UTC
It should also be noted that research times aren't linear. Neither are costs. There's a curve.

ME 0-1 is cheaper than ME 1-2 (0 to 2 cost the same as 0-1 + 1-2)


It also depends on the system you're doing the research in.

There appears to be a bug at the moment, that means the first job in a system (if it's not had any) acts as if all the industry in New Eden happens there. (cost index of 1) It's been reported.

Once that job has happened and an hour has passed (to let the index update) prices will be more normal. This is on a per activity basis. So run a cheap ME research job if you really need to do this before a bugfix happens.



I /think/ I've implemented the scaling of time and cost correctly in my new calculator ( https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/blueprint/ ) but I won't swear to it.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#20 - 2014-07-23 12:55:32 UTC
Barton Breau wrote:
Rowells wrote:
Barton Breau wrote:
Rowells wrote:
Scyllyn wrote:
Look better that figure there is for ONLY 3!! levels of time efficence so multiply that by 10 like I did please!

why are you multiplying by 10?


Good question, the cost now scales in a fashion of skills, higher level costing significantly more time. Take 9 to 10 ME == 600 days for thanatos.

thats without skills im assuming?


Probably, its from the dev blog tables, dunno if you expect a significant change for a 25% reduction.



Well, I'd expect a 150 day saving from a 25% reduction of 600 days.
Then you can stick it in a lab or upgraded caldari outpost to reduce the time further. (it's not additive, but multiplied. so it's not as effective. with a 35% reduction you're down to 48%, or 300 days)
And possibly also get in a team for a further reduction. (a 10% team would be 43%. or 263 days.)

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter
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