EVE General Discussion

...don't say anything at all. This forum is already groaning under the weight of rampant and acerbic criticism. To read along one might get the idea this game sucks so badly it's amazing all the critics have played it at all, let alone as long as they have. Yet, we have, and there must be some reason why. Mea culpa. I've been in there tossing my BS-filled wit around with everyone else, but now I'd like to try to retrieve the baby before it goes out the window with the bathwater.

This is the best game, hands down, the best and you can deny it all you want you know it's true. CCP has designed something here, the artists, computer whizzes down to the stock clerk, that will stand in digital history regardless of how much the high and mighty "I can do better than this" screamers claim it's full of junk. The plain fact is, it isn't. It's a game with good integrity, unsurpassed graphics, thought provoking content, and artwork that is head and shoulders above the vast majority of other digital offerings.

After all the uproar on this forum about Incarna I began feeling like I was logging onto this horrendous waste of my hard earned dollar. I was looking for rapscallion ripoffs over both my shoulders and not really looking at what I was doing at all. So, I took another look with a fresh set of eyes. And, it's still there; the EVE that's grabbed my imagination since '07. It's beautiful. It's responsive. It's challenging. It's demanding, and rewarding, and as someone said just yesterday, "It's the game I hate to love."

Regardless of all the spiteful, hateful and downright ill-considered verbiage that has passed the past few months, in the main CCP you've done a stellar job, and I have every confidence you'll continue to do the best you can with our baby EVE. Yes, most of us whether we'll admit it or not, have adopted your creation as our own. It's our child. May its future be bright and expansive.

yes, lets never critisize anything in the game that we dislike and hope that they get magically fixed

...grow up

Lolno.

Without criticism, there is no moving forward.

If you haven't got anything good to say, say it — it needs to be said.

You know, I experimented earlier.

I opened up a new account just for the hell of it. Spent an hour or so creating a character and then jumped in as if I was just starting the game. The feeling wasn't entirely there, but I just about recaptured what it was like for me the first time I ever logged in. (even considering the recent changes)

This is why I keep telling people that the game is still here. And yet, the whining continues. Although, it does seem to be tapering off a bit.

You do realize a lot of the "whining" is coming from those who feel the same way you do? However most of us aren't just going to sit idle and see the game we love be neglected and wither away, The thing people don't seem to understand is that while the vocal minority might sound like people who don't give a **** and just whine, its actually the opposite we care enough to voice our opinions in hopes CCP "gets the hint". Sadly CCP seems determined to "stay the course" so the rage continues..

If we dont critisize or complain about issues then the game wouldn't have evolved in the way it has. Eve would be a Dev's paradise and we would have lost everything that makes the game fun.

If CCP didn't want us point out flaws, problems etc then why set up the CSM, why have devs that actively talk to you in the forums?


"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction." - Albert Einstein

"This is the best game, hands down, the best and you can deny it all you want you know it's true. CCP has designed something here, the artists, computer whizzes down to the stock clerk, that will stand in digital history regardless of how much the high and mighty "I can do better than this" screamers claim it's full of junk. The plain fact is, it isn't. It's a game with good integrity, unsurpassed graphics, thought provoking content, and artwork that is head and shoulders above the vast majority of other digital offerings."

Amen to that. even with its bugs, nothing else like it around. Way too much politics by some. If one tires of a game - leave gracefully, no need to try make it miserable for other players.

Well said, Vyl Vit. +10

While I understand your sentiment, I don't necessarily agree with your method. A thread like this one will usually, if not always, come away with a lot of trolling :D

One of the best things any user can do, if they have issue or concerns with a particular thread, is to use the report button and provide a detailed reason as to why the thread should be reviewed and/or moderated. This will help us on the Community team spot problematic threads much more quickly.

Yes, good point Mind you in my RL forums in a non-Eve universe, far, faw away, the first accounts to get banned are those who write like four year olds with Caps Lock failure issues.

In these cases I think that CCP could do the community a huge benefit as well as increasing the intellectual average age of the New Eden denizen by helping them with their intent to quit by hastening thei exit.


edit. Due to appalling espresso deprivation induced spelling errors

If you feel so bad about critics in forums - perhaps leave forums, leave the game, do it silently ?

I don't like my own tone in a previous sentence, but your categorical wish to dictate others what they should think and do kind of justifies it.

Actually, both approaches are equally bad.

Don't tell me what to do and I will not tell you where to get lost.