EVE General Discussion

I keep pressing the like button, but it refuses to up more!

Especially separating the four empire with low-sec and removing common chokepoints.

Remove highsec and lowsec, remove ~1/2 the jump gates in the game (islands and bottlenecks). No more concord or security standings. Let alliances set penalties for attacking fellow alliance pilots, as well as treaties with other alliances which could hold penalties to their choosing if they wish. I'd rather see it function in a more true sandbox environment where players write the rules.

It would be fantastic to see fleet tactics diversified. I my self have quite blatantly been mocked by people who say. It will never work.


Currently fleets work like so. One person, the FC, calls out targets and every one shoots it. One target at a time. I don't see how any one can pay money for this game and spend hours upon hours simply hitting F1.


So I started a corp. hoping to diversify the game. The strategy is to break up the current fleet style. Instead of the whole blob taking out one target at a time. Have predetermined squads all with ships types they are specialized to take out. Like so. there's a bit more to it that would make this work but this is the gist.


Now game play wise this allows a lot more people to get in on the action. It also give people a chance to fly what they want, hopefully less time sitting waiting for form up and what not.

But before that can happen Eve players need to be more open minded. Most comments I get are because no one wants to try any thing new. 99% of eve players I talk to treat eve like WOW. You play like X. X is the only thing that works....It's the only thing we've tried but it works. This attitude is my pet peeve with eve. Seriously if CCP could give us an update to fix that I would never leave.

Back to it's original vision of a cold, harsh universe.

I want to take EVE to work and not get fired for it. Plenty of you seem to have the secret for that. Do tell.

Mr Epeen

This post has some serious merit +1

After all of the rainbows and ponies of the current MMO market, I decided to give Eve a shot. It blew my mind that this game has survived and I've just been soaking in the glory since, just being glad that I've finally found an MMO that remembers it's roots. So where would I take it?

Tactical FCing so that we can see some real geniuses pull off some real fights, instead of a grinding numbers game like we can get out of any other MMO.

More ships, and more variety in their roles. More choices means more variations in combat which means less iWin doctrines. Eve is more interesting as a whole as a result.

Less arbitrary restrictions, like the current Sov mechanics, and more flavor restrictions, that don't really have a significant impact on the gameplay of Eve but make the world and how players interact with it more interesting.

A more defined Karma system. Eve already has a Karma system, believe it or not, otherwise using alts to do your dirty deeds wouldn't be nearly as popular and API checks for corp applications wouldn't exist. What I mean by more defined is that people have a better understanding of the long-term impacts of their actions without any intrusive/blunt explanations. And no, this doesn't discourage negative behavior. It encourages it by allowing the player to develop a more interesting and detailed path of development for their character, and to take consequences into account and prepare for them ahead of time instead of being surprised by their sudden and ugly arrival. More long-tail gameplay ensues for both the bad guys and the good guys.

Murderdeath AI: I want AI that is so inconceivably evil that it drives players to try PvP as a means of escape from the insanity. People say that better AI will just drive carebears further into their caves, but I think if they were actually challenged in their gameplay on a regular basis in PvP quality fights and lost ships regularly thanks to this, the gap between PvP and PvE wouldn't seem so large to them, and might reduce the skill gap between the two groups. I want to see AI that refits in their nearby stations for more E-war and tackle, bounces for better range control and warps out if you don't have it pointed when you start dealing hull damage. RR, spider tanking, wrecking balls, cloaky tackle with drones, deployables, bumping, you name it I want to see it in PvE. I don't think I've shot a rat in 4 or 5 months for the same reason I don't play zombie games. It is mind-numbingly pointless.

More story and background in the areas of gameplay where people go looking for it, like Epic Arcs, COSMOS, and exploration, given to the player in ways that they don't feel it is being forced on them if they are not there looking for the story. Random datachips in the loot with background fluff on the factions, flavor items with descriptions that allude to historic events that can be further researched elsewhere or fill in small gaps in other pieces of lore. Etc... I would also like to see breadcrumb trails laid out for new players to follow filled with the propaganda of their race, so that players are given an investment to go along with activities like FW. Dozens of things can be done to hide story just behind the corner for people who don't want it interfering with their gameplay, and just within reach of those looking for it. A lot of it already is, I just think there are a bucketload of missed opportunities for every one that CCP uses.

More encouragement for PvP support roles like escorting, recon, rear guard, harassment and attrition, etc..

Less support for lazy gameplay styles and more for active participation within Eve and it's inhabitants.

So many things to do...

1 - There would be a remote repair nullification module. Doctrines dependent on huge blobs and their alpha strikes resulting in one-sided battles and complete routes be changed to wars of attrition involving multiple squads and wings employing varying tactics and roles in the same battle. Victory must cost you. Sure you can defeat a force half your size, but it might just cost you half your fleet to do it.

2 - T2 BPOs would be removed. Invention overhauled.

3 - Low sec and NPC null sec mining would be extraordinarily difficult to impede. Invulnerable Rorqual.

4 - Remove sentry drones from the game. Do not pass go, do not collect $200. Do not alter. Do not nerf. Just remove them with one punch of the delete key.

5 - Rebalance carriers so a workable triage fit is as useful for repping as a boot carrier and has a workable capacitor situation without cap modules dominating the fit.

6 - Player built star gates would be implemented in such a way that no matter who you are, CFC or anybody, smaller groups would be able to enjoy space that you won't be able to get to and ruin under any circumstances. Totally variable shaped sandbox where whole groups of players can enjoy eve with absolutely no chance of being forced to interact with other groups of players. Multiple Eve player bases. Such gates would come in many forms, with some being breakable, others not, some being super jump bridges to other parts of known space and others not, some leading to small constellations usable as group safe areas, and some leading to entirely new galaxies where whole new and independent player bases can exist without all the psychopaths currently ruining new eden. Some can transport caps and super caps, others not. Make these various stargates upgradable with a variety of modules giving them unique effects.

7 - More avatar based play, open the door to the damned captain's quarters. Create interaction in Eve with the new Project Legion. Give Legionaires and DUSTies roles in sov flipping, such as invading player owned stations. Eve is a gorgeous game. Create more models and locations to view. Elite: Dangerous plans for people to walk around planets and fly through atmosphere. Eve should not neglect this.

8 - Launch Valkyrie style player operated fighters out of player operated carriers and super carriers. Remove AI controlled fighters and fighter bombers. If you don't have a dozen friends willing and able to fly your fighter bombers, you don't get to launch fighter bombers.

9 - totally ban ISBoxer.

Yeah, forgot to mention this one. Ban all alts.

I'd make big coalitions impossible. I'd make null space more wild, more dynamic and open to adventurers, instead of open to boot-lickers only. Null space a bit like Worm Space, that's what i'd do.
I also would multiplicate the gates between high/low/null, again to bring more dynamic in the game.