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Is anyone bowing out of Industry with these new changes?

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Colten Tokila
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-07-22 16:12:21 UTC
I have read a lot of mixed feelings about the patch but the biggest thing seems to be that you no longer need an indy alt, or even an indy focused character to make things effectively now. Due to this and the increased cost to make ships do any of you plan to move on to another facet of Eve
Qmamoto Kansuke
Killing with pink power
Penguins with lasorz
#2 - 2014-07-22 16:20:47 UTC
Its bit too early to make assumptions lets wait a bit to see how things are going to be with this cost scaling stuff.
Victor Dathar
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#3 - 2014-07-22 16:22:14 UTC
My PVP alts all have manufacturing specific skills so I for one welcome our new less terrible industry interface overlords.

^^^ lol that post is so bad you should get back 2 GBS m8 o7

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Kirkwood Ross
Golden Profession
#4 - 2014-07-22 16:23:43 UTC
R.I.P. my perfect dreadnaught bpos.
Steijn
Quay Industries
#5 - 2014-07-22 16:31:48 UTC
i'm stopping all research, still looking at options with regards manufacturing.
Jakob Anedalle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-07-22 16:50:52 UTC
Obligatory: Can I have your stuff?
Just drop those "useless" blueprints in a item contract and I'll give them a good home.


Seriously? Basically this all boils down to "I don't wanna change", right?
We can rebalance every ship under a thousand suns, but if CCP dares to change the industry clickfest...

Trying out all the things to do here in Eve - it's quite a checklist. So I made a blog Jakob's Eve Checklist
Steijn
Quay Industries
#7 - 2014-07-22 16:52:59 UTC
Jakob Anedalle wrote:
Obligatory: Can I have your stuff?
Just drop those "useless" blueprints in a item contract and I'll give them a good home.


Seriously? Basically this all boils down to "I don't wanna change", right?
We can rebalance every ship under a thousand suns, but if CCP dares to change the industry clickfest...


no, it boils down to me not feeling the end result is worth sticking 30bn worth of BPOs in a POS in order to carry on doing what i was.
Ginger Barbarella
#8 - 2014-07-22 16:55:09 UTC
I've already torn down all of my towers and done all the invention and manufacturing I need to keep my alts in modules and ammo for a year or so, so I'm just watching for now. May tinker with it a bit as more bugs are patched, but for now I'm out of the industry game. Transitioning my alts to faction warfare to watch my ships go boom. :)

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Jakob Anedalle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-07-22 16:57:07 UTC
Steijn wrote:

no, it boils down to me not feeling the end result is worth sticking 30bn worth of BPOs in a POS in order to carry on doing what i was.


And I'm sure there is no solution or alternative method to that

what so ever

amiright?



So yeah, in that case sell your BPOs on the market and use the funds from that to fire up an blingy incursion runner, or fund your next market trading empire, or even just buy enough plex that you can futz around the game for three fricken years to find something else you like.

Trying out all the things to do here in Eve - it's quite a checklist. So I made a blog Jakob's Eve Checklist
Katherine Raven
ALTA Industries
Intergalactic Conservation Movement
#10 - 2014-07-22 17:01:42 UTC
Hell no I'm not bowing out. If anything I'll be ramping up. Mostly in stations and with NPC haulers of course. I will be giving things a little bit to get settled before I go back at it hard, but I'm just waiting and watching while I get my stuff reorganized.
Steijn
Quay Industries
#11 - 2014-07-22 17:04:30 UTC
Jakob Anedalle wrote:
Steijn wrote:

no, it boils down to me not feeling the end result is worth sticking 30bn worth of BPOs in a POS in order to carry on doing what i was.


And I'm sure there is no solution or alternative method to that

what so ever

amiright?



So yeah, in that case sell your BPOs on the market and use the funds from that to fire up an blingy incursion runner, or fund your next market trading empire, or even just buy enough plex that you can futz around the game for three fricken years to find something else you like.


from a personal point of view, the alternatives are not a viable option. Defend a POS just wont happen because i cant guarantee been online during every 24 hour period in order to remove said BPOs, and installing in a station was a no go the minute it showed that it would take 444d to ME research a freighter from scratch, when it would have taken a hell of a lot less previously.

...............so research is a no-go for me, thats all.
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#12 - 2014-07-22 17:16:52 UTC
Still skill limitations so i have alts working on mundane things while my main indy toon does the big stuff. Honestly I might get more involved since its easier for me to understand
Barton Breau
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-07-22 17:51:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Barton Breau
There are strong reasons to consider not participating in reasearch, its like the old "ships built without extra materials" thing, but now everyone keeps their researched bpos, that more often than not took 1/10 of time and money to make.

But if enough industrialist quit, atleast there will be plenty of perfect bpc's :)
SamuelAdams
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2014-07-22 18:50:46 UTC
I already have 30 or 40 researched prints from ammo to battlecruisers.
I'm planning on building as much as I always have.
Hope Alar
Blue Tridents
#15 - 2014-07-22 18:52:03 UTC
At this point I am far too invested into industry. I could sell all of my bpos I supppose, but it would take a lot of time. I am going to take a brief hiatus from industry though and see where the dust settles. For now, I am going to start up some heavy PI.
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#16 - 2014-07-22 20:36:41 UTC
Steijn wrote:
no, it boils down to me not feeling the end result is worth sticking 30bn worth of BPOs in a POS in order to carry on doing what i was.
Have you considered making a BPC in a station, and using that in the POS?
Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-07-22 20:45:46 UTC
Steijn wrote:
Jakob Anedalle wrote:
Obligatory: Can I have your stuff?
Just drop those "useless" blueprints in a item contract and I'll give them a good home.


Seriously? Basically this all boils down to "I don't wanna change", right?
We can rebalance every ship under a thousand suns, but if CCP dares to change the industry clickfest...


no, it boils down to me not feeling the end result is worth sticking 30bn worth of BPOs in a POS in order to carry on doing what i was.


So you stick them in a station, make copies and stick the copies to the POS. Copies are nearly free to make and there are no assembly line limitations for making them.

Oh sorry, too hard, extra step, slit wrists and jump off balcony.
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#18 - 2014-07-22 20:48:00 UTC
Jarnis McPieksu wrote:
Copies are nearly free to make and there are no assembly line limitations for making them.

Oh sorry, too hard, extra step, slit wrists and jump off balcony.


Yes, there's a limitation to making them. It's called Laboratory Operation and Advanced Laboratory Operation.
Gospadin
Bastard Children of Poinen
#19 - 2014-07-22 21:03:06 UTC
Steijn wrote:
Jakob Anedalle wrote:
Obligatory: Can I have your stuff?
Just drop those "useless" blueprints in a item contract and I'll give them a good home.


Seriously? Basically this all boils down to "I don't wanna change", right?
We can rebalance every ship under a thousand suns, but if CCP dares to change the industry clickfest...


no, it boils down to me not feeling the end result is worth sticking 30bn worth of BPOs in a POS in order to carry on doing what i was.


The free market always adjusts.
Gospadin
Bastard Children of Poinen
#20 - 2014-07-22 21:03:58 UTC
Jarnis McPieksu wrote:
Steijn wrote:
Jakob Anedalle wrote:
Obligatory: Can I have your stuff?
Just drop those "useless" blueprints in a item contract and I'll give them a good home.


Seriously? Basically this all boils down to "I don't wanna change", right?
We can rebalance every ship under a thousand suns, but if CCP dares to change the industry clickfest...


no, it boils down to me not feeling the end result is worth sticking 30bn worth of BPOs in a POS in order to carry on doing what i was.


So you stick them in a station, make copies and stick the copies to the POS. Copies are nearly free to make and there are no assembly line limitations for making them.

Oh sorry, too hard, extra step, slit wrists and jump off balcony.


One extra step, but 2093480283402834 fewer clicks overall.
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