Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'd rathr this thread didn't sink into oblivion.

Shameless bump. Most people that have posted seem to like this, so I would love to hear of the Devs are taking any interest in this.

I haven't read the entire thread, but I think the idea has merit and is worth considering.

Personally I think having a light and heavy version of this type of ship would be a good idea. I think the new Destroyer hulls would probably work well in this role for the light version and maybe we could get the BS hulls that haven't been reused already (Rohk, Mael, Hyp, and Abb) for use in the Heavy role.

I don't really think the idea of a frigate carrying around thousands of m3 worth of deployables is really a good one, especially when you're talking about hulls like the Burst. I think using the new Destroyer hulls (Dragoon, Corax, Algos, and Talwar) make a lot more sense visually. Also, given the notion that these ships will be fast and heavy hitting against immobile targets using an attack ship as a base is a better starting point than using the T1 logi frigs.

As for the Heavy version I'd envision it as being something that's really meant for clearing the field of deployables in an instant and then having to weather the storm of the counter attack afterwards. Instead of the extremely mobile puncher that the light version is the Heavy version would be the bulldozer, slow but unstoppable with the ability to wipe its target off the map. As such using a much larger and slower hull, such as a BS would be a good starting place. Just take away some weapons, increase the tank, and give it access to the specialized 'anti structure' weapons.

For flavor adjust how they deploy their special weapons to fit their style. The light engineer ships would be able to apply their demolition charges from range, say 15-35k having range increase with skill, but with a long reload timer like a bomb launcher. The Heavy engineer ships would be able to fit 2 or 3 of the charge launchers so they can hit multiple targets quickly or a single target with devastating effect but not have the increased range of the lighter ships, so instead of trying to maintain a large combat field 1 target at a time the Heavy engineer stakes a claim to an area and can quickly destroy anything that's deployed in range.

I don't know if anyone would agree with this, but I think this may be a good time to consider an alternative to treating the demolition weapon as a missile or projectile too. I think it may be interesting to instead make it a specialized type of Smart Bomb. The Demolition Bomb could function similarly to the HAC's Warp Disruption Field Generator. In normal mode it could function like a normal smart bomb and deal damage to an area around the Engineer ship and allow it to be fit with a script that turns it into a single target device with a much longer range.

My only issue with this idea is that if it becomes too quick or convenient to deploy mobile structures they will be spammed out of control and a new "Erecting a Dispenser!" mentality will emerge.

Great idea. Multiple objectives during a POS fight. No reason CCP shouldn't do this. Of course they won't though, they are not bold enough.

thread bumpo desu

Anchored objects and deployables?

I would spend days doing nothing but scanning down mobile depots and dragging them off grid, after dropping a can with a male dancer in it.

I wouldn't even want to shoot them. I couldn't even be bothered to scan them to see what's inside to see if I should shoot them. I'd just change the name of the can to a bunch of penises and butts and drag the depot out of sight of the bookmark.

Yeah, this was discussed a page or so back. If the demo charge could only target certain entities (IE Deployables), there wouldn't be the issue of miner and dread blapping.

Good idea +1

More ships.

More better.

+1 although I do think it should be able to hit capital ships. Anti-cap frig fleet FTW!