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Brock Nelson
#1 - 2014-07-22 12:39:38 UTC
I just completed 10 invention jobs and all had failed. Shocked

Did CCP nerf it or something?

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Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-07-22 12:46:36 UTC
Brock Nelson wrote:
I just completed 10 invention jobs and all had failed. Shocked

Did CCP nerf it or something?


You sure they failed?

Last I checked on SISI (granted, it was a while ago), there was no notification of sucess/failure. Stuff just appears on the output hangar.
NotTheSmartestCookie
Shooting Blues Everyday
Gimme Da Loot
#3 - 2014-07-22 14:06:54 UTC
I had 3 out of 5 jobs fail! CCP has massively nerfed invention to compensate T2 BPO owners!! Why was this not in the patch notes!!!

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Steve Celeste
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-07-22 14:22:27 UTC
Nice sample size Roll
Chuck Dgrow
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-07-22 14:23:26 UTC
the invention chance didnt change from my test on sisi. 0 out of 10 is low yes but it does happen sometime
Velicitia
XS Tech
#6 - 2014-07-22 14:26:22 UTC
nope, you just had a bad streak.

working as intended.

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#7 - 2014-07-22 14:30:44 UTC
Brock Nelson wrote:
I just completed 10 invention jobs and all had failed. Shocked

Did CCP nerf it or something?

Congrats on first post!

I take it I'm the only one that gets the joke.
Brock Nelson
#8 - 2014-07-22 17:25:20 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Brock Nelson wrote:
I just completed 10 invention jobs and all had failed. Shocked

Did CCP nerf it or something?

Congrats on first post!

I take it I'm the only one that gets the joke.


Yep, it does seem like you're the only one who got it

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Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#9 - 2014-07-22 17:33:52 UTC
As an aside, anyone have any good tricks to increase invention yield? I've tried changing my clicking tempo, clicking left handed, begging my Deity, crossing fingers, etc.
Owen Levanth
Sagittarius Unlimited Exploration
#10 - 2014-07-22 17:50:08 UTC
Jarnis McPieksu wrote:
Brock Nelson wrote:
I just completed 10 invention jobs and all had failed. Shocked

Did CCP nerf it or something?


You sure they failed?

Last I checked on SISI (granted, it was a while ago), there was no notification of sucess/failure. Stuff just appears on the output hangar.


There are large red crosses indicating failure and large green check marks indicating success. They're coming together with text messages for the colorblind and geometrically disabled.

I've no idea how you could overlook this. Did you last check on SiSi two months ago or something?
Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2014-07-22 18:12:50 UTC
Owen Levanth wrote:
Jarnis McPieksu wrote:
Brock Nelson wrote:
I just completed 10 invention jobs and all had failed. Shocked

Did CCP nerf it or something?


You sure they failed?

Last I checked on SISI (granted, it was a while ago), there was no notification of sucess/failure. Stuff just appears on the output hangar.


There are large red crosses indicating failure and large green check marks indicating success. They're coming together with text messages for the colorblind and geometrically disabled.

I've no idea how you could overlook this. Did you last check on SiSi two months ago or something?


Yep. It was something like that.

Good to know they fixed it :)
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#12 - 2014-07-22 18:28:25 UTC
This has been the biggest detriment to invention all along. Before Crius I could get an average of 20% Pilgrim BPC and when you incorporate that in to final build cost it amounted to around 125% buy cost.

Inventions are a huge ISK sink.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#13 - 2014-07-22 18:34:08 UTC
Ocih wrote:
This has been the biggest detriment to invention all along. Before Crius I could get an average of 20% Pilgrim BPC and when you incorporate that in to final build cost it amounted to around 125% buy cost.

Inventions are a huge ISK sink.

So? Sell at a higher price now. Problem solved.
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#14 - 2014-07-22 18:40:32 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Ocih wrote:
This has been the biggest detriment to invention all along. Before Crius I could get an average of 20% Pilgrim BPC and when you incorporate that in to final build cost it amounted to around 125% buy cost.

Inventions are a huge ISK sink.

So? Sell at a higher price now. Problem solved.



Gee why didn't I think of that.
It's not like anyone will undercut me Roll
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#15 - 2014-07-22 18:46:24 UTC
Ocih wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
So? Sell at a higher price now. Problem solved.

Gee why didn't I think of that.
It's not like anyone will undercut me Roll

They have the same costs as you... or they found a way to be more efficient, like using better facilities or hiring a team.
PyroxQ
Pinpoint Pierce
#16 - 2014-07-22 18:52:29 UTC
Awww, man. Nerfed again! Every patch, EVERY patch they nerf invention rate and says nothing in the patchnotes about it. Bad ccp!!

Given the number of patches and the secret nerfing thats been going on Im surprised ppl still do invention at all.
Chuk Ormand
Alternative Solutions Corporation
#17 - 2014-07-29 01:13:43 UTC
I've already done 1000+ invention jobs since Crius started with 2 mains and 4 alts. I have about 40% success.........about the same as before. A big factor is that now you can get a 10 run tech 2 bpc without negative material and time research from a single run bpc. I have so many bpc copies with maximum runs from before the patch............it will take years to exhaust them all.

Maybe it's still early but the costs to invent in a station are very cheap where i am. I still own a small pos and have 2 months of fuel stored. I may need to consider taking it down. Owning your own pos used to mean something before. I don't feel that way anymore.................-chuk
PinkMonkey Dragon
Bittervets United
#18 - 2014-07-29 01:33:57 UTC
since it now so kindley shows the rate you can succeed, i have been doing about that rate.

have also used the interface to find when a meta item makes a ton of sense (1200 isk for a meta item that boosts 50%? win! that's like getting results from 30 chances out of 20 tries).

been doing REALLY well as a result...

now some one needs to tell me how to burn through 10k runs of cap recharger copies. lol
Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#19 - 2014-07-29 02:15:06 UTC
Based on those results I wouldn't do anything risky for a while. Might want to be purified by a shaman or at least consider buying a rabbits foot.