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News: Rens Security Incident/Bombing
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Lhara Erridau
Institute of Social Development
#21 - 2014-07-21 09:36:06 UTC
We are so sorry to hear that this has happened.

My team at the Institute naturally pledge any support we can provide to medical, investigation, or repair teams.
Jinari Otsito
Otsito Mining and Manufacture
#22 - 2014-07-21 10:04:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Jinari Otsito
Challis Drant wrote:
Jinari Otsito wrote:
And if whoever is behind this is a capsuleer? What exactly will be the consequences if any?


Without pre-judging the potential result - I can think of a few ideas.

Most forget we are immortal, and they think we can clone jump at any point. mmmmm ..... perhaps a simple stasis field in a secure environment preventing all movement , but allowing conscious thought - for ever.....

I would not wish that on most of my enemies but if the knife fits into the sheath...


And pop goes the implant self-destruct. Not exactly a pleasant experience, even if you get to make a really funny face before losing however much memory you've accumulated since the last upload but quite preferable to whatever a stasis field is. I honestly can't think of a way to take out a decently prepared capsuleer without taking out their clone contracts first and if you manage to compromise one of the best secured and distributed systems in the cluster you're quite far beyond any capsuleer.

From what I can tell, unless CONCORD takes an acute interest, any capsuleer behind this will get away with it with no more than the usual financial cost of ships going pop, which happens often enough anyway.

The false flag aspect of this sounds more interesting and likely though.

Prime Node. Ask me about augmentation.
Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#23 - 2014-07-21 11:06:18 UTC
Thank you to the well wishers, for the thoughts and offers of help. I am very relieved to report I am fine; I was in my apartment at the time of the explosion, and the heavy security door did its job. The attack does not appear to have been targeted at me. We will keep everyone updated, as it is safe to do so, on the status of Ms. Oskonnur.

Spirits guide.


"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"
Rodj Blake
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#24 - 2014-07-22 06:20:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Rodj Blake
Given the Republic's long-standing tolerance (or support) of terrorism, it shouldn't surprise anyone if there are terrorists in the Republic.

The victims of this event deserve a better government.

Dolce et decorum est pro Imperium mori
Ava Starfire
Khushakor Clan
#25 - 2014-07-22 10:09:36 UTC
Rodj Blake wrote:
Given the Republic's long-standing tolerance (or support) of terrorism, it shouldn't surprise anyone if there are terrorists in the Republic.

The victims of this event deserve a better government.


So given the Empire's long-standing tolerance of kidnappers, rapists, and so on.... you know what, naawww.

"There is no strength in numbers; have no such misconception." -Jayka Vofur, "Warfare in the North"
Sammi Oskonnur
Oskonnur Resource Extraction Services
#26 - 2014-07-22 14:50:59 UTC
So, I'm back in the world of the waking.

I have no idea what's gone on- Apparently it hasn't even been that lounge.

As for my injuries- I was given a choice:
Either I lose four very important moths of my memory, forever, by cloning, or I lose the ability to control my lower body and arcs entirely.

As it is, I shake too much to type this, and everything hurts, so I'm using text to speech.

The higher-ups are handling all the derails.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#27 - 2014-07-22 14:56:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
I don't know who explained your options to you, but what's stopping you from just using a jump clone?

I mean, my condolences on your injuries and best wishes for a swift recovery and all that, but that "four months" thing would only apply if they cold-cloned you, and seeing as you're awake and alert you should be fit to just body-hop and be done with it.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Sammi Oskonnur
Oskonnur Resource Extraction Services
#28 - 2014-07-22 15:07:22 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
I don't know who explained your options to you, but what's stopping you from just using a jump clone?

I mean, my condolences on your injuries and best wishes for a swift recovery and all that, but that "four months" thing would only apply if they cold-cloned you, and seeing as you're awake and alert you should be fit to just body-hop and be done with it.


There's simply a lot of important brain that's not there anymore. I have a microcontroller bridging some of the gaps.
The way the clone technologist types explained, scanners read neuronal connections and rebuild those.
You can't scan something that doesn't exist.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-07-22 15:24:40 UTC
You might want to look into a paper in the Hedion University Journal of Medicine published in YC113. All about the scar-free regeneration of damaged brain tissue using artificial neurons. The entire cloning process hinges on the predictable and methodical way in which neurons grow and interconnect, and that research adapted the idea in a few new directions. Given that for the purposes of the cloning procedure there is no difference between a synthetic neuron and an organic one, a course of that treatment might bridge the gaps adequately to allow memory-intact cloning.

Though the therapy could take a while, and wouldn't be able to begin until you've rehabilitated a bit further. Still, it's a future prospect. Thanks for answering my question: If your injuries are half as severe as they sound, I now hold the medics who tended to you in high esteem.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Sammi Oskonnur
Oskonnur Resource Extraction Services
#30 - 2014-07-22 15:42:47 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
You might want to look into a paper in the Hedion University Journal of Medicine published in YC113. All about the scar-free regeneration of damaged brain tissue using artificial neurons. The entire cloning process hinges on the predictable and methodical way in which neurons grow and interconnect, and that research adapted the idea in a few new directions. Given that for the purposes of the cloning procedure there is no difference between a synthetic neuron and an organic one, a course of that treatment might bridge the gaps adequately to allow memory-intact cloning.

Though the therapy could take a while, and wouldn't be able to begin until you've rehabilitated a bit further. Still, it's a future prospect. Thanks for answering my question: If your injuries are half as severe as they sound, I now hold the medics who tended to you in high esteem.


I'll have to ask one of the medical professionals. It sounds promising but also potentially like it could really interfere with capsuleer training stuff.
Stitcher
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#31 - 2014-07-22 15:46:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Stitcher
Even if that's the case, it seems to me like if you could train a "repair my brain" skill and then clone, that's money and time well-spent.

The defining trait of a capsuleer is our resilient brains. Just look at our ability to reprofile ourselves once a year, interface with machines and clone on a daily basis without pronounced adverse effects. I'm pretty sure an appropriate therapy for you won't be difficult to find.

AKA Hambone

Author of The Deathworlders
Sammi Oskonnur
Oskonnur Resource Extraction Services
#32 - 2014-07-22 15:54:39 UTC
Stitcher wrote:
Even if that's the case, it seems to me like if you could train a "repair my brain" skill and then clone, that's money and time well-spent.

The defining trait of a capsuleer is our resilient brains. Just look at our ability to reprofile ourselves once a year, interface with machines and clone on a daily basis without pronounced adverse effects. I'm pretty sure an appropriate therapy for you won't be difficult to find.


The other case is that I'm really not fond of the idea of dying.
Nissui
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#33 - 2014-07-22 19:11:32 UTC
Should our cousins in the clans of Rens require additional personal security, Clan Idisen has granted me sanction to provide free access to our Bodyguard and Troubleshooter units for the duration of the inquiry.
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