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Reducing the volume of raw ore!

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Rexanna Jerae
NEOGEO Mining Operations
#1 - 2014-07-22 12:49:39 UTC
Hi all!
I have a simple question:
if i have for example 1.000.000m3 of raw ore and i need to reduce the volume is better to compress the ore or reprocess the ore into minerals?
Thanks!
Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-07-22 12:55:53 UTC
Rexanna Jerae wrote:
Hi all!
I have a simple question:
if i have for example 1.000.000m3 of raw ore and i need to reduce the volume is better to compress the ore or reprocess the ore into minerals?
Thanks!


Compress the ore.
Selaria Unbertable
Bellator in Capsulam
#3 - 2014-07-22 13:25:52 UTC
Yes, compress the ore. With the changes to ore compression in Crius today, you have a ratio of about 1:20 between compressing and refining, meaning 1m³ of compressed ore contains about 20m³ of minerals.
This ratio applies for every ore you can find, and is slightly better for the 5% resp. 10% ores.
Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-07-22 13:35:35 UTC
Also this way you can leave the refining to those who have proper skills, implants and facilities for it.

Also you can almost certainly make more ISK by selling compressed ore than minerals.
Rexanna Jerae
NEOGEO Mining Operations
#5 - 2014-07-22 14:52:58 UTC
ok understand! let's go with compression!Big smile
Thanks!
PhatController
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#6 - 2014-07-23 12:04:31 UTC
To give you an idea, compressing a frieghter load of ore, turns into about 20,000-30,000 m3 of compressed ore.
Johnathan Coffey
Niforce Triggers
#7 - 2014-07-23 12:42:52 UTC
PhatController wrote:
To give you an idea, compressing a frieghter load of ore, turns into about 20,000-30,000 m3 of compressed ore.

Aside from the planets not moving, this may be the best example of how 'realistic' eve is.

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Vexed Nova
NovaTech Holdings
#8 - 2014-07-23 20:44:54 UTC
PhatController wrote:
Aside from the planets not moving, this may be the best example of how 'realistic' eve is.


^ literal lol

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Julien Brellier
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-07-23 21:07:22 UTC
Compressed ore takes up far less space than refining the ore into minerals.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#10 - 2014-07-23 21:26:15 UTC
Johnathan Coffey wrote:
PhatController wrote:
To give you an idea, compressing a frieghter load of ore, turns into about 20,000-30,000 m3 of compressed ore.

Aside from the planets not moving, this may be the best example of how 'realistic' eve is.



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Fulbert
Industriels Independants SARL
#11 - 2014-07-23 21:32:46 UTC
1 compressed veldspar = 0,15 m3
contains 415 units of tritanium = 4,15 m3

so one Anshar (with 3 expanded cargohold II 342,000m3) hauls 2.28m units = 946 millions Tritanium units

that's weird...
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#12 - 2014-07-23 21:33:49 UTC
Fulbert wrote:
1 compressed veldspar = 0,15 m3
contains 415 units of tritanium = 4,15 m3

so one Anshar (with 3 expanded cargohold II 342,000m3) hauls 2.28m units = 946 millions Tritanium units

that's weird...



Though you'll never recover all of that trit.

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Savoian
The Muppet Show
#13 - 2014-07-24 11:40:32 UTC
that is the problem I can't solve.
Bringing the compressed ore to a minmatar refining station in 0.0 is easy, I can move 6bil of compressed ore in a single JF run.
The problem then is bringing the mineral back to hi sec for sale, that would require 20 trips .... ouch!!!!!

I see manufacturing moving to 0.0-

Sav
Velicitia
XS Tech
#14 - 2014-07-24 11:46:26 UTC
Yeah, you'll be seeing mfg move out to null, for the people who live there ...

Realistically, we'll probably see a glut of ships on the market for a (long) while, as nullsec pulls away from the empire markets; but from what I remember of things -- they're slow moving, so we probably won't even see nullsec entities moving away from Jita as a ship source until fall/winter.

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Anna Toftdal
Doomheim
#15 - 2014-07-24 13:36:41 UTC
ok , new player here , im ofcourse nowhere to a freighter and stuff , but how do you compress ore then?
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#16 - 2014-07-24 13:46:53 UTC
Anna Toftdal wrote:
ok , new player here , im ofcourse nowhere to a freighter and stuff , but how do you compress ore then?



Two ways.

The old way, using a Rorqual.

The new way, using a POS (of any size) and a compression array.

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Savoian
The Muppet Show
#17 - 2014-07-24 13:49:13 UTC
Anna Toftdal wrote:
ok , new player here , im ofcourse nowhere to a freighter and stuff , but how do you compress ore then?


you find an empty moon close to where you mine
you set up a small POS with a compression array
you turn it on when you need to compress then off not to waste fuel
you cross fingers that nobody wardecs you to kick you out from there

Sav
Anna Toftdal
Doomheim
#18 - 2014-07-24 13:59:08 UTC
tnx
Rexanna Jerae
NEOGEO Mining Operations
#19 - 2014-07-24 14:09:30 UTC
Savoian wrote:
that is the problem I can't solve.
Bringing the compressed ore to a minmatar refining station in 0.0 is easy, I can move 6bil of compressed ore in a single JF run.
The problem then is bringing the mineral back to hi sec for sale, that would require 20 trips .... ouch!!!!!

I see manufacturing moving to 0.0-

Sav


why you don't bring compressed ore directly to high sec?
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
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#20 - 2014-07-24 14:51:03 UTC
Rexanna Jerae wrote:
Savoian wrote:
that is the problem I can't solve.
Bringing the compressed ore to a minmatar refining station in 0.0 is easy, I can move 6bil of compressed ore in a single JF run.
The problem then is bringing the mineral back to hi sec for sale, that would require 20 trips .... ouch!!!!!

I see manufacturing moving to 0.0-

Sav


why you don't bring compressed ore directly to high sec?



Minimatar outposts have better refining rates.

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