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Gf guys... right?

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corbexx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2014-07-22 10:37:25 UTC
aye seen that. Ive done dual marauder and 4/5 rr tengus, best was from 2 marauders. I wouldnt mind trying the old ccres way with 3 logi 3 lokis 6 prots 1 ham legion cos that used to knock out sites really fast its just getting the numbers and stuff to attually do that.

I'll maybe try 1 marauder see if i can attually do that
corbexx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2014-07-22 10:46:17 UTC
Going to link a couple other related isboxer threads/articles

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=354128&find=unread (link where people want it banned or atleast csm to put pressure to have it banned)

http://crossingzebras.com/crossing-zebras-episode-45/ Crossing zebra discus about it at the start of that podcast

http://crossingzebras.com/csm9-report-week-eight/ brought up here as well, this one has the added bonus of chatting about destructible stations.
Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#23 - 2014-07-22 10:49:34 UTC
As a PS:

The fact that IS Boxer is fine to use in EVE is absolutely atrocious and it should have been banned years ago.

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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#24 - 2014-07-22 10:57:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Lloyd Roses
Jack Miton wrote:
The fact that IS Boxer is fine to use in EVE is absolutely atrocious and it should have been banned years ago.


You, Sir, got my +1.

In short: Bombers.

It really isn't fun if you can replace the SKILL and PRACTICE of a group of players with one click using 3rd party software.

PS: Miss the times of 6mil MNRs. Give those back and we're back at 240mil/hr running c1s.
Peter Moonlight
Suddenly Carebears
#25 - 2014-07-22 12:21:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Peter Moonlight
I was trying so many different methods of doing sites and earning ISK, with 1 character up to 4 characters i think. I would rate them something like this:

#1: Solo dreadnought - You can easily find empty C5 or a C6 (But C6 requires methods that i haven't seen published to public, but it is possible). That way i managed to earn tops 1.4 Bil / 85-90 mins, and that was how many sites you have. That method is pretty dangerous and before that you need to scan the system, to scan the surrounding holes and/or chain, to close/crit those holes, and have in mind now many people jump trough crit holes to kill solo or few caps that seem like easy target, specially in Magnetars/Wolf-Rayets where in W-R you have big bonus to small weapon damage and a lot of frigate sized ships can possibly go trough crit hole. This 1.4 bil per 90 minutes is just doing pure sites, but when you count in all the effort of preparations for it and the actual risk of Dread being killed + the price of the ship which is atleast 4-5 bil, you'd probably get on the same number doing some other things..

#2: Marauder - This actually requires 2 characters if you want to max your income from salvaging which you ofcourse want, so your alt can semi-afk salvage while you focus on the other screen shooting in other site with you Marauder rather then refitting with mobile depo and using salvagers on Marauder to salvage the wrecks, and on alt of mine i had LVL4 salvaging skill, and i wasn't able to salvage that toughest sleeper BS wreck, but LVL5 skill could probably do.

#3: RR Tengus, this is a best option if you have like 2-3 characters with no marauders, or no acess to C5/C6 holes, they work pretty well in C4, and you can earn decent isk there, you can do that with 2 Tengus, 3rd character could be a salvager or whatever, this is not the best option but if your limited by SP and some other things, this is easy, not too much stress, but not very fun tho. And if you are careful, closing holes, scouting with 3rd character etc, you are pretty safe with your Tengus, there is also a fit of a Tengu which is nullified and does not suffer on combat skills in a site which is a pretty big bonus, you can also use them to clear some data/relics/gases.

EDIT: I haven't mentioned doing "solo" (quad-boxing atleast) escalations with 2 caps, Carrier+Dread+Webber+Booster, these are also viable and nice ISK, but it is so skill intensive, and too much risk, that not many people can do that, and you shouldn't try it if you don't know what you are doing, you can earn a lot, but if wrong people happen to roll into you, you are gonna be so confused, and you are going to loose all your ships..
Lamhoofd Hashur
Overload This
Escalation Theory
#26 - 2014-07-22 13:26:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Lamhoofd Hashur
Just find him in high sec. :)
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#27 - 2014-07-22 13:29:55 UTC
Winthorp wrote:
the guy that runs solo incursion fleets


I've seen this guy before. Watched him lose ~5-10 Nightmares because he ****** up.

I see no real problem with ISBoxer, people play how they want to play

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Verisimilidude 001
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2014-07-22 13:36:14 UTC
Lamhoofd Hashur wrote:
Just find him in high sec. :)


Shots fired.
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#29 - 2014-07-22 14:19:22 UTC
Verisimilidude 001 wrote:
Lamhoofd Hashur wrote:
Just find him in high sec. :)


Shots fired.


1/20, keep it coming!

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Datu Puki
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2014-07-22 14:57:14 UTC
SSC rolled into us today, after we gathered some intel on their numbers we figured we could take them on in roughly a fair fight. Then all the sudden 14 Ishtars + Nestors show up on dscan in SSC's hole and our whole corp collectively puked up chunks of wtf all over TS... I don't mind IS boxer if that's how some individual wants to play however SSC could have made out with a few more kills today if he wasn't around.
Illipsys
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2014-07-22 15:09:49 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
As a PS:

The fact that IS Boxer is fine to use in EVE is absolutely atrocious and it should have been banned years ago.


you're getting as whiny as winthorp Jack What?

why is it atrocious? it doesn't break the game, it doesn't make someone unbeatable and it's really damn hard to do - so what's stopping anyone else from doing it or beating him? or is it just easier to say that it's broken and it should be banned...yeah.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#32 - 2014-07-22 15:11:15 UTC
I've caught wind that there is already internal grumbling about this guy. I would wager his ssc time is coming to a close.

I wonder, can you IS box a corp theft? 16 orcas moonwalking out (I think that's the current catch phrase) simultaneously w/ all you stuff. Now THAT would be a super frapsification.
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#33 - 2014-07-22 15:14:05 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
I've caught wind that there is already internal grumbling about this guy. I would wager his ssc time is coming to a close..


I could see a few people being mad that they suddenly get blueballed because this guy logs in.

Were he to train his alts and get good with ISBoxer, he could pretty easily run a kiting ishtar + scimi fleet solo.

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Sith1s Spectre
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#34 - 2014-07-22 15:15:46 UTC
Datu Puki wrote:
SSC rolled into us today, after we gathered some intel on their numbers we figured we could take them on in roughly a fair fight. Then all the sudden 14 Ishtars + Nestors show up on dscan in SSC's hole and our whole corp collectively puked up chunks of wtf all over TS... I don't mind IS boxer if that's how some individual wants to play however SSC could have made out with a few more kills today if he wasn't around.


If you're fighting fair in Eve, you're doing it wrong

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Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#35 - 2014-07-22 15:26:59 UTC
corbexx wrote:

C5 120m a hour


What? A Dread and carrier can make upwards to 3bil an hour using solo escalation method. A dread alone can make upwards to 800mil/hr!
Lamhoofd Hashur
Overload This
Escalation Theory
#36 - 2014-07-22 15:27:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Lamhoofd Hashur
Up to this point the guy in question has been very considered of using his 15+ ishtars in PvP. If he wanted to he could have also blobbed the 2 prots we killed 20 min earlier and multiple other fights we had. Personally as a FC I would only use his army in straight up ganks.

Final question though: How often have you've seen a complaint thread/post/comment in the past 4 months he has been in corp? Blink
Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#37 - 2014-07-22 15:55:44 UTC
Sith1s Spectre wrote:
Datu Puki wrote:
SSC rolled into us today, after we gathered some intel on their numbers we figured we could take them on in roughly a fair fight. Then all the sudden 14 Ishtars + Nestors show up on dscan in SSC's hole and our whole corp collectively puked up chunks of wtf all over TS... I don't mind IS boxer if that's how some individual wants to play however SSC could have made out with a few more kills today if he wasn't around.


If you're fighting fair in Eve, you're doing it wrong


jesusfuck what is that corp

Aquila Sagitta wrote:
corbexx wrote:

C5 120m a hour


What? A Dread and carrier can make upwards to 3bil an hour using solo escalation method. A dread alone can make upwards to 800mil/hr!


He's talking no escalation to prove a point

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

corbexx
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#38 - 2014-07-22 16:26:53 UTC
Andrew Jester wrote:


Aquila Sagitta wrote:
corbexx wrote:

C5 120m a hour


What? A Dread and carrier can make upwards to 3bil an hour using solo escalation method. A dread alone can make upwards to 800mil/hr!


He's talking no escalation to prove a point


this is exactly the point its what isk you can make just using sub caps. yes i know you could use a dread or carrier in your static if you wanted, maybe i will if i get time but i doubt I will have
Hatshepsut IV
Un.Reasonable
#39 - 2014-07-22 16:40:07 UTC
Ab'del Abu wrote:
Adriana Nolen wrote:
Nerf Cap escalations. Being able to plex such ridiculousness shouldn't be easily feasible.


Maybe he's just a rich guy. Ban rich guys from eve :)


Ban the poor too! They might become rich too!

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Aquila Sagitta
Blue-Fire
#40 - 2014-07-22 17:01:36 UTC
corbexx wrote:
Andrew Jester wrote:


Aquila Sagitta wrote:
corbexx wrote:

C5 120m a hour


What? A Dread and carrier can make upwards to 3bil an hour using solo escalation method. A dread alone can make upwards to 800mil/hr!


He's talking no escalation to prove a point


this is exactly the point its what isk you can make just using sub caps.


Oh my bad totally missed that X