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Is trolling miners becoming less cool?
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Liam Inkuras
Furnace
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#141 - 2014-07-21 20:36:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Liam Inkuras
Quality necro post.

Edit: **** now it looks like I necro posted. GO BACK 1 PAGE TO FIND THE HEATHEN

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#142 - 2014-07-21 20:38:56 UTC
liam
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#143 - 2014-07-21 20:53:54 UTC
Most of this stuff is one charade after another and has a short shelf life.

In all my years in EVE Online I have never once been ganked while mining.

I've had some scrub steal from cans during missions, before I could blue them a total of 4 times. It amounted to pulling drones and doing the rest of the mission with missiles. Followed but an incessant spamming of private message until I blocked them or accepted to see what angle they had in store. Followed by docking and logging out for an hour to check Alt PI.

A kill mail link on the forum might create 3 or 4 pages of fake rage but boring, predictable and meaningless in the game.
Petre en Thielles
Doomheim
#144 - 2014-07-21 20:54:56 UTC
Tar'z wrote:
What do you guys think?

One of my spy alts was in a CFC chat channel and I saw an interesting conversation between a few important-ish CFC members. They we're discussing a recent article on minerbumping.com and how funny it was, but also went on to comment on how "lame" and "old" griefing miners in high-sec is getting. They seemed amused still by the content created but seemed to have no interest in furthering their commitment in helping create it themselves.

One of the members made a comment that hit home. Loosely paraphrased he stated, "it just seems like the cool thing to do, and I have no interest grouping up with mindless sheep."

To me this makes sense. I've ganked a many dozen mining barges, freighters, orcas, marauders, but never under the motivation of simply trolling the person behind the keyboard. While I do not object to that in itself, I always wondered why miners got the brunt end of it while mission runners, haulers, PIers, manufacturers, and scores of other AFK income activities are largely ignored. IMO the most logical reason was given by the CFC members above.

Discuss!



Trolling was ever cool? Trolling is what nerds who got bullied in high school do to finally feel like the bully for a change...
Hadrian Blackstone
Yamato Holdings
#145 - 2014-07-21 21:00:43 UTC
Petre en Thielles wrote:
Trolling was ever cool? Trolling is what nerds who got bullied in high school do to finally feel like the bully for a change...


You just described Eve.
Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#146 - 2014-07-21 21:20:26 UTC
The one thing here that I don't get is that mining is a requirement of EVE. It 'has' to happen in order for people to get their shiney ships and fittings. So I see this as a strange practice that is comparable to biting the hand that feeds.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#147 - 2014-07-21 21:26:38 UTC
Because gankers totally have no mining alts in corps they gank Roll

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Heinrich Erquilenne
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#148 - 2014-07-21 21:32:35 UTC
I'm mostly doing PI and nullsec lp farming. This is safer than highsec mining indeed. Nullsec is a vast, empty piece of space in which reds don't even engage you when you fly a "navy" ship, and PI is the safest passive income ever.

It's sad to see people ganking freighters imo because they make prices more even across the galaxy which isn't a bad thing from my perspective. Miners have their use too even if most of them have terrible fits. I like cheap ships, mind you.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#149 - 2014-07-22 00:23:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcolm Shinhwa
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Ganking miners is not profitable. CCP specifically made it so with the barge buff a couple of years ago. So I'll give you the ultra-secret, only talked about in the upper echelons of the New Order cabal (where I have a spy alt), main concern of the puppet
masters:

Quote:
If the miners ever stop sperging in local and sending hilarious tear filled emails full of *WWII German* references and death threats, we won't have anything to put on the blog. Without the blog we won't get billions in donations for Catalysts. It will be like someone ganked OUR wallet!


So if the industrialists could please talk to their fellows in hisec, especially the ones with a Strong Entitlement Booster, to just go ahead and shut the hell up, the New Order will die and minerbumping.com will go dark. Then only an occasional *pop* will be heard in the cold of space when the infrequent hisec miner is killed for lolz. Then my brothers and I can go on to fail careers elsewhere in New Eden. I myself intend on retiring in a nice back water wormhole system some day. Maybe do a little fishing.

Wow grats...I never considered the N.O to be spy worthty?


You resurrected a thread dead for 2 months to make that quality remark? I mean, you had 2 whole months to come up with something. Wow...

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#150 - 2014-07-22 01:16:06 UTC
It was Liam, he did it. He's a witch.








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Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#151 - 2014-07-22 02:47:22 UTC
**glares accusingly at Liam**

Who put the goat in there?
Oxide Ammar
#152 - 2014-07-22 06:00:03 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
I've never understood ganking miners, personally. mining ships are fit with things that aren't very lucrative when they drop and the tears are no different than anyone else's.

i get ganking mission runners in their blinged out ships, or freighters carrying too much cargo... but miners? ok.
unless miner tears cure cancer or something...


Because it doesn't shoot back, if the had the balls they would be shooting suff that shoots back in low sec but they want the easy way. What?

Lady Areola Fappington:  Solo PVP isn't dead!  You just need to make sure you have your booster, remote rep, cyno, and emergency Falcon alts logged in and ready before you do any solo PVPing.
Ssabat Thraxx
DUST Expeditionary Team
Good Sax
#153 - 2014-07-22 06:27:12 UTC
Oxide Ammar wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
I've never understood ganking miners, personally. mining ships are fit with things that aren't very lucrative when they drop and the tears are no different than anyone else's.

i get ganking mission runners in their blinged out ships, or freighters carrying too much cargo... but miners? ok.
unless miner tears cure cancer or something...


Because it doesn't shoot back, if the had the balls they would be shooting suff that shoots back in low sec but they want the easy way. What?


Suicide gankers are alts. Hell, I had ne till I got bored with it and sold it. It's not about "being afraid to shoot something that might shoot back," it's about collecting tears, and feeling like you're getting away with something because "omg ppl arent supposed to kill u in hisec!" Ive been suicide ganked, I know how that wtf moment feels, and it's therapeutic to some folks to sort of "pay it forward" to the universe. It's like you are God's giant middle finger, pushing their pod right the fook out of their little mining ship. It's FUNNY.

\m/ O.o \m/

"You're a freak ..." - Solecist Project
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#154 - 2014-07-22 06:38:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Schmata Bastanold
Oxide Ammar wrote:

Because it doesn't shoot back, if the had the balls they would be shooting suff that shoots back in low sec but they want the easy way. What?


So you say mining barges/exhumers should somehow be excluded from pvp along with probing t1/t2 frigs, haulers, shuttles and cynos. Ships without fitted guns/drones also cannot shoot back. Pods cannot shoot back. And none of deployable structures can shoot back!

Geezus, list is getting longer and longer.

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Oxide Ammar
#155 - 2014-07-22 07:02:44 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Oxide Ammar wrote:

Because it doesn't shoot back, if the had the balls they would be shooting suff that shoots back in low sec but they want the easy way. What?


So you say mining barges/exhumers should somehow be excluded from pvp along with probing t1/t2 frigs, haulers, shuttles and cynos. Ships without fitted guns/drones also cannot shoot back. Pods cannot shoot back. And none of deployable structures can shoot back!

Geezus, list is getting longer and longer.


Let's say you have 3-4 hours gaming time, you sit your ass on in front of your PC and have two options:

1- fleet up with friends and go gate camp, roaming or hot drop ratters in low/null sec, challenge yourself and your friends to have blast doing stuff like that even if you lost your ship.

2- roam with your alts in catalysts ganking standing still barges, keep harvesting what you call "tears" (If I get 1 isk for everyone keep mentioning tears) and think you are better player in pvp on something didn't shoot back at you.

..guess which one did you choose..

Lady Areola Fappington:  Solo PVP isn't dead!  You just need to make sure you have your booster, remote rep, cyno, and emergency Falcon alts logged in and ready before you do any solo PVPing.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#156 - 2014-07-22 07:18:41 UTC
Oxide Ammar wrote:
..guess which one did you choose..


Mining in my hulk/skiff + orca or blizting L3s for standings.

You shouldn't assume too much, son.

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Oxide Ammar
#157 - 2014-07-22 07:39:55 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Oxide Ammar wrote:
..guess which one did you choose..


Mining in my hulk/skiff + orca or blizting L3s for standings.

You shouldn't assume too much, son.


Read the thread title again, what you are talking is different issue, son.

Lady Areola Fappington:  Solo PVP isn't dead!  You just need to make sure you have your booster, remote rep, cyno, and emergency Falcon alts logged in and ready before you do any solo PVPing.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#158 - 2014-07-22 07:48:51 UTC
Every ship in game is a possible and viable target and there is no morality in pixels so if you wanna be space bushido white knight that's fine but who are you to pass judgement on in-game activities of others? Unless it's your credit card that their subs are paid with.

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Oxide Ammar
#159 - 2014-07-22 08:43:58 UTC
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Every ship in game is a possible and viable target and there is no morality in pixels so if you wanna be space bushido white knight that's fine but who are you to pass judgement on in-game activities of others? Unless it's your credit card that their subs are paid with.


You seem to be drifting from the topic here, dude the other activities you are talking and defending about which in our case trolling/ ganking miners is boring and stale and it gets old overtime, same like doing repetitive activities in EVE. The game gave you choice to interact with others in pvp, my statement was you choose the option of doing pvp against someone he will never react before or after the gank..over doing the actual fun pvp, but hey w/e floats your boats everyone.

Lady Areola Fappington:  Solo PVP isn't dead!  You just need to make sure you have your booster, remote rep, cyno, and emergency Falcon alts logged in and ready before you do any solo PVPing.
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#160 - 2014-07-22 08:54:13 UTC
Oh thank you for allowing me to have my inferior kind of fun.
I wish I could enjoy actual fun like you do but somehow I missed that part of tutorial.

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