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Hyperion needs to be a comprehensive sov and supercapital overhaul
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Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#21 - 2014-07-21 23:27:57 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
It's desperately needed


Correction: its desperately needed for a SMALL-to-medium subset of the EVE population.

As a wormholler, I cant use sov or supercapitals. herefore, I could not care less about that.

To me, POS revamp is MUCH more important then some dude's wish to grind more/less sov.


As a wormholler you're a much smaller subset of the population.

Nullsec players are, in all likelihood, one of the larger groups in EVE. Not smaller.



People who use POS dwarf both the wormhole and sov null populations as all of wormholes use pos and parts of High,low and null use them.

Yeh Sov is buggered atm. But Pos Overhaul is probably a better first step as it could intertwine with sov
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#22 - 2014-07-21 23:31:03 UTC
Icarus Able wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
It's desperately needed


Correction: its desperately needed for a SMALL-to-medium subset of the EVE population.

As a wormholler, I cant use sov or supercapitals. herefore, I could not care less about that.

To me, POS revamp is MUCH more important then some dude's wish to grind more/less sov.


As a wormholler you're a much smaller subset of the population.

Nullsec players are, in all likelihood, one of the larger groups in EVE. Not smaller.



People who use POS dwarf both the wormhole and sov null populations as all of wormholes use pos and parts of High,low and null use them.

Only if you define "use a pos" as "occasionally sits behind shields", sure. Otherwise no.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Conjaq
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2014-07-21 23:39:07 UTC
A complete 0.0 rebelance done right requires extensive and potentially game changing changes. As they say Rome was not build in one day, and this is exactly the example where the phrase fits perfectly. It was mentioned by ccp seagull, that before they can do serious rework of 0.0 they need to make the mechanics of the game ready for it. Which is exactly what they are doing. Now industry, then pos mechanics, and then whatever was listed on that power point presentation. And then when all the ground work is done, they'll work on so mechanics.
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#24 - 2014-07-21 23:41:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
PotatoOverdose wrote:
6 Weeks. Comprehensive Sov Overhaul. Pick one or the other, there's no way you're gonna get any sort of sov overhaul in 6 weeks.

Lucky they have 9 weeks then till Hyperion. That extra 3 weeks is going to make all the difference. Surely. What could go wrong?
Jovan Geldon
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2014-07-21 23:43:13 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
a balance pass of supercapitals cannot come soon enough. It's desperately needed.


what a momentous day, I never thought I'd see a Goon whining about supercapitals
Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#26 - 2014-07-21 23:46:15 UTC
All it needs is a really heavy hammer.

Sovereignty and Population

New Mining Mechanics
John E Normus
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#27 - 2014-07-21 23:54:43 UTC
The answer to the sov problem.

Give it a try gais.

Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Gettz Squall
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#28 - 2014-07-21 23:54:57 UTC
I do agree with the OP...especially regarding the sov overhaul
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#29 - 2014-07-22 00:00:00 UTC
Jovan Geldon wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
a balance pass of supercapitals cannot come soon enough. It's desperately needed.


what a momentous day, I never thought I'd see a Goon whining about supercapitals


we already won the supercapital game a few months back, soooo

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2014-07-22 00:00:53 UTC
Jovan Geldon wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
a balance pass of supercapitals cannot come soon enough. It's desperately needed.


what a momentous day, I never thought I'd see a Goon whining about supercapitals

Should I be honored that of all the numerous posts on the subject, mine is the first one you pay attention to?

Supercapitals have been a problem for a long time, and we've been saying so for a long time.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#31 - 2014-07-22 00:07:17 UTC
Andski wrote:
Jovan Geldon wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
a balance pass of supercapitals cannot come soon enough. It's desperately needed.


what a momentous day, I never thought I'd see a Goon whining about supercapitals


we already won the supercapital game a few months back, soooo

time to abuse our obscene power in infuriating ways

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Serptimis
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#32 - 2014-07-22 00:14:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Serptimis
Andski wrote:
Jovan Geldon wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
a balance pass of supercapitals cannot come soon enough. It's desperately needed.


what a momentous day, I never thought I'd see a Goon whining about supercapitals


we already won the supercapital game a few months back, soooo
If you won it , why didn't you capitalize on it?
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2014-07-22 00:15:32 UTC
By... what? Conquering everything? Yeah that's fun.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#34 - 2014-07-22 00:18:12 UTC
Let's take our own sov

I see there's alsoready sbus at f20

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#35 - 2014-07-22 00:19:20 UTC
Serptimis wrote:
Andski wrote:
Jovan Geldon wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
a balance pass of supercapitals cannot come soon enough. It's desperately needed.


what a momentous day, I never thought I'd see a Goon whining about supercapitals


we already won the supercapital game a few months back, soooo
If you won it , why didn't you capitalize on it?


your own alliance was too scared to commit to that fight until it was already decided l0l

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Serptimis
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#36 - 2014-07-22 00:21:01 UTC
Andski wrote:
Serptimis wrote:
Andski wrote:
Jovan Geldon wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
a balance pass of supercapitals cannot come soon enough. It's desperately needed.


what a momentous day, I never thought I'd see a Goon whining about supercapitals


we already won the supercapital game a few months back, soooo
If you won it , why didn't you capitalize on it?


your own alliance was too scared to commit to that fight until it was already decided l0l

Doesn't answer the question though.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#37 - 2014-07-22 00:23:02 UTC
Oh look, black legion again.

Who were they trying to fight? EG or some group of ours?

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#38 - 2014-07-22 00:24:55 UTC
Serptimis wrote:
Doesn't answer the question though.


we capitalized on it pretty well by taking most of that space for RUS

not our fault -DD- disbanded

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#39 - 2014-07-22 00:30:12 UTC
another victory for vince draken

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Serptimis
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#40 - 2014-07-22 00:30:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Serptimis
Andski wrote:
Serptimis wrote:
Doesn't answer the question though.


we capitalized on it pretty well by taking most of that space for RUS

not our fault -DD- disbanded

So it seems you feel B-R was a lucky roll of the dice, might not go so well if you tried it again, especially minus those Russian allies. Fair enough, no harm in knowing your limitations.