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Why do players hate others for Auto piloting?
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Toriessian
Helion Production Labs
Independent Operators Consortium
#81 - 2014-07-21 18:16:31 UTC
Hate is a strong word. That mindset is the problem.
I would ask "Why do some heavily armed players with friends find other players autopiloting amusing?"

Every day I'm wafflin!
KATAL MATU
Doomheim
#82 - 2014-07-21 18:27:58 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
LazyDeer wrote:
I can understand those who gank to get isk and for fun just to kill, but why is the community so against players who auto pilot around because they want play on the main will flying from point A to point B automatically? One of my alts was killed today in a shuttle and I got a mail saying I shouldn't autopilot and how butt hurt I should be because he killed my shuttle not my pod or anything else but my shuttle in a thrasher. So what is the problem with it? It is a feature the game allows so why are players so butt hurt when they see other players using it to fly around?


1. They want your pod on a killmail.
2. They're nerds.
3. They want no one to afk anything.
4. They have nothing better to do, so they shoot autopilot shuttles and pods.

I have no problem with it. Autopilot shouldn't be used in dangerous systems. If you lose your stuff in those systems because you were too lazy to disable AP and manually fly through those areas, then thats your own damn fault. Why the hell are you autopiloting in systems where ships get ganked? Its just a thinning of the herd.

Removed an offensive bit from the post. Please do not reference recent human tragedies when making a point. Thank you.-ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
Shizuken
Venerated Stars
#83 - 2014-07-21 18:37:27 UTC
LazyDeer wrote:
I can understand those who gank to get isk and for fun just to kill, but why is the community so against players who auto pilot around because they want play on the main will flying from point A to point B automatically? One of my alts was killed today in a shuttle and I got a mail saying I shouldn't autopilot and how butt hurt I should be because he killed my shuttle not my pod or anything else but my shuttle in a thrasher. So what is the problem with it? It is a feature the game allows so why are players so butt hurt when they see other players using it to fly around?


They don't, it is typical antisocial projection of fault. They blame the victim so they don't have to feel like a **** for popping you. They really just want an easy target and they take it for the momentary gratification.
Serptimis
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#84 - 2014-07-21 18:46:52 UTC
If they have to sit mindlessly staring at the screen , clicking a button every so often and never involving themselves in anything that requires skill then you should too. Misery loves company.
Miomeifeng Alduin
Lithonauts Inc.
#85 - 2014-07-21 19:36:43 UTC
LazyDeer wrote:
So why not kill my pod then? Like I stated in my post they only killed my shuttle in a thrasher, but not my pod? Then told me that I shouldn't Auto pilot around and I'm bad, because of?


its not somuch hate, but just an easy target. I think the guy was trying to teach you a "lesson" considering the above (kill shuttle, leave pod, send mail) about using autopilot and the feature getting you killed easily.
De'Veldrin
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#86 - 2014-07-21 19:40:37 UTC
KATAL MATU wrote:

/* pre-ISD snip snip */


Seriously dude? That was neither funny nor called for.

De'Veldrin's Corollary (to Malcanis' Law): Any idea that seeks to limit the ability of a large nullsec bloc to do something in the name of allowing more small groups into sov null will inevitably make it that much harder for small groups to enter sov null.
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#87 - 2014-07-21 20:21:20 UTC
De'Veldrin wrote:
KATAL MATU wrote:

/* pre-ISD snip snip */


Seriously dude? That was neither funny nor called for.

Indeed, well out of order.

Murderers of Negotiable Motivations

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E-2C Hawkeye
HOW to PEG SAFETY
#88 - 2014-07-21 20:25:06 UTC  |  Edited by: E-2C Hawkeye
Finnish Hymn wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Tippia wrote:
LazyDeer wrote:
I can understand those who gank to get isk and for fun just to kill, but why is the community so against players who auto pilot around because they want play on the main will flying from point A to point B automatically? One of my alts was killed today in a shuttle and I got a mail saying I shouldn't autopilot and how butt hurt I should be because he killed my shuttle not my pod or anything else but my shuttle in a thrasher. So what is the problem with it? It is a feature the game allows so why are players so butt hurt when they see other players using it to fly around?

Where in any of that was hate against autopiloting expressed? It rather sounds like you're projecting a fair amount here.

No-one hates others for autopiloting. At most, some get annoyed when people who get killed while autopiloting come to the forum and complain and start demanding that their non-playing be made more safe.


You mean like afk cloakling? That type of non-playing??

Always amazing how people can and will justify their hypocricy when it benefits them.

Get use to it OP you will see it alot.


I do not see anyone complaining about AFK cloaking, it's part of the game and a good reason to fleet up so you can fight if need be. When AFK cloakers camp the system I play in, I just get a cheap ship I don't mind losing and keep going, 99.9% of the time the afk cloaker is a bluff that couldn't even cyno-drop you if they wanted to.

LMAO...first time reading the forums?

Its not about the counter its all about the type of game play. People want to begrudge auto piloting yet condone the same play type for afk-cloaking.
Miichael Epic
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#89 - 2014-07-21 21:46:44 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Please do this, you'll make lots of people very happy, if you're really lucky you'll get an ALOD feature on TMC out of it.


lmao omg man that fitting is terrible....MY Navy Issue Raven is fitted totally right :) don't you worry your pretty little head about it. It took me 5-6 tries with lesser Tech I gear to get it right but I finally got it right!
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#90 - 2014-07-21 22:36:22 UTC
Kitty Bear wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
LazyDeer wrote:
is this a thing now that everyone hates auto pilots?


It's called "bot aspirancy".


you mean the copy & pasted mass mail sent to anyone shot down ...


copy & paste to multiple recipients is bot aspirancy

each mail should be individually written, and sent to a single individual pilot

lol @ code failing it's own code.


Well, that's the dumbest thing I've read in a while.

I for one personalize my mails.

#justthelittlethings

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
KATAL MATU
Doomheim
#91 - 2014-07-21 22:43:50 UTC
Then ill reference something different. What would happen if a sea vessel were to pass a known pirate coast while on autopilot? Minimal crew on the bridge, majority are below deck and asleep. Same situation goes back ages. Traveling through known hostile enviroments is a recipe for disaster. Same applies in game. There are hostile systems. Generally 0.5. 0.6 too.
Hiyora Akachi
Blood Alcohol Content
Top Shelf
#92 - 2014-07-21 23:00:00 UTC
People tell others AP is ****, so that they don't come to the forums to complain about how they died while doing it and how HS should be completely safe and CODE/Goons/Gankers are all neckbearded nerds who'll die permavirgins.

Abloobloobloo
Finnish Hymn
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#93 - 2014-07-21 23:00:44 UTC
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Finnish Hymn wrote:
E-2C Hawkeye wrote:
Tippia wrote:
LazyDeer wrote:
I can understand those who gank to get isk and for fun just to kill, but why is the community so against players who auto pilot around because they want play on the main will flying from point A to point B automatically? One of my alts was killed today in a shuttle and I got a mail saying I shouldn't autopilot and how butt hurt I should be because he killed my shuttle not my pod or anything else but my shuttle in a thrasher. So what is the problem with it? It is a feature the game allows so why are players so butt hurt when they see other players using it to fly around?

Where in any of that was hate against autopiloting expressed? It rather sounds like you're projecting a fair amount here.

No-one hates others for autopiloting. At most, some get annoyed when people who get killed while autopiloting come to the forum and complain and start demanding that their non-playing be made more safe.


You mean like afk cloakling? That type of non-playing??

Always amazing how people can and will justify their hypocricy when it benefits them.

Get use to it OP you will see it alot.


I do not see anyone complaining about AFK cloaking, it's part of the game and a good reason to fleet up so you can fight if need be. When AFK cloakers camp the system I play in, I just get a cheap ship I don't mind losing and keep going, 99.9% of the time the afk cloaker is a bluff that couldn't even cyno-drop you if they wanted to.

LMAO...first time reading the forums?

Its not about the counter its all about the type of game play. People want to begrudge auto piloting yet condone the same play type for afk-cloaking.


Who are you talking about? You are the one bringing up AFK cloaking. Both have draw backs and players should accept the draw backs. AFK flying makes you defenseless but if you are ok with that that is fine. AFK cloaking means you can't do anything until you decloak.

You must live in 0.0 and are mad just because someone cloak in your system. There are other systems.
Gorinia Sanford
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#94 - 2014-07-21 23:23:37 UTC
Super spikinator wrote:
Gorinia Sanford wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
LazyDeer wrote:
is this a thing now that everyone hates auto pilots?


It's called "bot aspirancy".


Which seems to have quite the nebulous definition.


The definition is not nebulous, the subject it covers is broad.


And nebulous.
Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#95 - 2014-07-21 23:26:53 UTC
I don't think it's hate. It's more just an opportunity to blow someone up who you KNOW probably isn't paying much attention.

That and the whole buy a permit thing.

Oh, I perfectly understand, Hal Morsh — a mission like this requires courage, skill, and heroism… qualities you are clearly lacking. Have you forgotten you're one of the bloody immortals!?
Zero Sum Gain
FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOM
#96 - 2014-07-21 23:31:39 UTC
Sibyyl wrote:
I think it's simple. Autopiloting provides:
1. A long period of time where your ship is slowboating from a warp-in point to a gate
2. At the same time, the player is likely not completely attentive

1 and 2 provide a circumstance where massive damage can be dealt uncontested in a short amount of time.

Now, can you tell me why this is relevant for hisec?


That's how, not why.

Although because you can is the prevailing reason for doing anything in eve.
John E Normus
New Order Logistics
CODE.
#97 - 2014-07-21 23:57:34 UTC  |  Edited by: John E Normus
Some of us just believe that people playing Eve that aren't actually playing Eve don't really need to be undocked.

It's a philosophy.

Between Ignorance and Wisdom
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#98 - 2014-07-22 00:11:21 UTC
It's kinda funny how autopilot works. Learn the game, and your routes, the active timezones and the less active ones along your routes, and you can autopilot all the way into a trade hub like I just did on my alt while I was making some breakfast. But like any other aspect of EVE, learning when and where you can and can't do it is imperative before you try.

“Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'. Jam those ones first, and kill them last.” - Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
Zaxix
State War Academy
Caldari State
#99 - 2014-07-22 00:48:22 UTC
Anyone who claims that they never use autopilot is a ******* liar.

Bokononist

 
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#100 - 2014-07-22 01:21:04 UTC
Zaxix wrote:
Anyone who claims that they never use autopilot is a ******* liar.


I manual. Every jump. And I check local too.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.