Warfare & Tactics

GHIOT/-NME- run public fleets most days around 2000 Eve time, Look out for fleets from Bloc, Templis and Hecon alliances too. Not sure what TZ your in if your not seeing any activity tbh.

Yeah your biggest problem in FW is that public fleets are trash fleets usually and the FC's running them do so out of charity. Generally most decent fleets are closed off because of SPAIZ and doctrines (however loose they are).

As an example, last public gang I ran I very specifically told people you can all join but you MUST bring kiting frigates. What happens, 1/2 of fleet goes 'oh i came with blaster incursus bro'. Now I'm the arse who either says 'go away' or I deal with it, let them in then they moan that they died.

I now don't do public fleets.

So my advice, join a decent sized corp, go through the recruitment process because by doing so you will satisfy the opsec requirments at a basic level. After which most people are fine with guys stepping up to learn to FC, just start with cheap ship gangs and work upwards.

The point of telling people to bring kite ships is more for morale than anything else. The doctrine doesn't have to be kite for a support fleet to be mobile.

Er because it's not hard. Each race has kiting frigates that can be used in low sp. Its not about my high expectations at all, in fact if I thought so low of people that telling them to fly a kiting t1 frigate was too hard for them and just take an f1 brawler would I not just be some aloof prat?

I am an advocate that EVE pvp is not hard, its only the UI that's a whore to understand. The reason brawling is seen as route 1 to pvp newbs is only because its a complete chore to teach the methods required to become a good kiter. I like to show people the things that make that simple to understand kiting and how to use it effectively.

If it's a career its definitely not one I am suited for although i always try again every now and then :)

Start a fleet, go camp a gate. It's easy to run and gives you a good way of learning how to handle the swarm of nerds at your disposal. You'll snag a few kills while you wait for someone to come and give you a real fight. Once you're comfortable with that, you can become a bit more mobile. Plexing fleets work too, but they tend to be less popular.

If you decide to go with a loose doctrine, use something you're used to flying. Be a **** when people ask if they can bring something else. Try to have people you know ready to support you when the **** hits the fan, don't expect people you don't know to pick up your slack.

basic idea of being FC is to know what to do and when and guide your fleet to do something that fleet members are exited about.

sometimes exploding is the main reason why people setup fleets and that is really easy to FC, just remember to tell before hand what is the current function of the fleet.

You FW folks like to bicker and nit pick a lot.

FC is pretty easy. Just get a couple of guys that will listen to you, fleet up and go do stuff. Call some primaries. Learn what does and doesn't work. That's it.

Get the right guys and you'll have fun. Get a bunch of whiney ninny nit pickers and it really doesn't matter what you do - it won't be fun. If the above crap is a representative sample of how FW folks do business - you're doomed if you're trying to have fun.

Find some mellow guys that like playing the game and enjoy!

Drunk fleet starts around 10pm PST....be there .... be square. We almost killed a moros tonight.

Bring what you are comfortable losing because until I make some more contacts or someone wants to sponsor drunk fleet. T1 T2 frigs and dessies ( or if we get drunk enough tengus ) we roam around drunk as hell blowing stuff up.