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Why do players hate others for Auto piloting?

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LazyDeer
Mandible Inc
COLONY.
#1 - 2014-07-21 03:43:05 UTC
I can understand those who gank to get isk and for fun just to kill, but why is the community so against players who auto pilot around because they want play on the main will flying from point A to point B automatically? One of my alts was killed today in a shuttle and I got a mail saying I shouldn't autopilot and how butt hurt I should be because he killed my shuttle not my pod or anything else but my shuttle in a thrasher. So what is the problem with it? It is a feature the game allows so why are players so butt hurt when they see other players using it to fly around?
Arkady Romanov
Whole Squid
#2 - 2014-07-21 03:48:56 UTC
Something something bot aspirancy something something.

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Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2014-07-21 03:51:21 UTC
I think it's simple. Autopiloting provides:
1. A long period of time where your ship is slowboating from a warp-in point to a gate
2. At the same time, the player is likely not completely attentive

1 and 2 provide a circumstance where massive damage can be dealt uncontested in a short amount of time.

Now, can you tell me why this is relevant for hisec?

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Dhaq
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-07-21 03:51:42 UTC
They aren't mad. They are actually happy because it gives them easy targets.

You see the dirt flinging start when someone actually complains about being killed while auto-piloting. On that note, you better put on your flame retardant jacket.

Possibly inb4?
LazyDeer
Mandible Inc
COLONY.
#5 - 2014-07-21 03:56:19 UTC
So why not kill my pod then? Like I stated in my post they only killed my shuttle in a thrasher, but not my pod? Then told me that I shouldn't Auto pilot around and I'm bad, because of?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#6 - 2014-07-21 03:59:33 UTC
In some ways, I love autopilot. It's basically a free shot at you, since you have abdicated your own self defense. On the other hand, I despise the entitlement mentality that it represents.

Both are excellent reasons to kill someone for autopiloting.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

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Ocih
Space Mermaids
#7 - 2014-07-21 04:00:55 UTC
I think the word you are looking for is

excuse.
Jur Tissant
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2014-07-21 04:01:16 UTC
I would think much of the EVE community would welcome such targets. The people who criticize probably just want to make themselves feel superior to foolish autopilots.

But, even vets will autopilot sometimes when they're flying a shuttle or cheap ship and want to take out the trash or make dinner or whatever.

In the end, do what you want as long as you can accept the consequences and don't give two craps about bullies.
General Nusense
Doomheim
#9 - 2014-07-21 04:01:45 UTC
I personally dont hate people that auto pilot. I just hate the "make ap goto zero" threads that pop up every two months or so.

Made a signature so I am taken seriously on the forums, since thats the only thing they are good for.

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2014-07-21 04:05:06 UTC
Seems the thrasher pilot got mad because your shuttle wasn't full of this seasons fabulous clothing lines.
LazyDeer
Mandible Inc
COLONY.
#11 - 2014-07-21 04:06:50 UTC
See I have no problem with dieing because I auto piloted. None doesn't hurt me at all, just so confused as to why I'm the bad one due to auto piloting and is this a thing now that everyone hates auto pilots?
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#12 - 2014-07-21 04:14:55 UTC
LazyDeer wrote:
is this a thing now that everyone hates auto pilots?


It's called "bot aspirancy".

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Spicy McGee
Quazar Holdings
#13 - 2014-07-21 04:24:48 UTC
I auto pilot around Hi-sec if i need to pee or do something
But with the expectation that i may die and it's my own fault
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#14 - 2014-07-21 04:38:25 UTC
LazyDeer wrote:
So why not kill my pod then?

With what? His pod?

He lost his ship when he bravely fought your shuttle.

Mr Epeen Cool
LazyDeer
Mandible Inc
COLONY.
#15 - 2014-07-21 04:45:39 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
LazyDeer wrote:
So why not kill my pod then?

With what? His pod?

He lost his ship when he bravely fought your shuttle.

Mr Epeen Cool


I like.
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#16 - 2014-07-21 04:51:39 UTC
that seems like a strange reason to kill someone. That said I usually don't use it as it seems like a decent way to get killed, and is inefficient. but I think this is the first time I've heard of people hating on people just for using AP.

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Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2014-07-21 04:52:30 UTC
LazyDeer wrote:
I can understand those who gank to get isk and for fun just to kill, but why is the community so against players who auto pilot around because they want play on the main will flying from point A to point B automatically? One of my alts was killed today in a shuttle and I got a mail saying I shouldn't autopilot and how butt hurt I should be because he killed my shuttle not my pod or anything else but my shuttle in a thrasher. So what is the problem with it? It is a feature the game allows so why are players so butt hurt when they see other players using it to fly around?


First of all, the guy who killed you did teach you a valuable lesson: don't autopilot. On the other hand, he was a bit of a knob if he thinks a dead shuttle is butthurt-worthy. Ganking a shuttle is easy, and even easier in a Thrasher.

I don't think anyone hates you for autopiloting, unless they do in which case they have bigger problems than anything that happens in EVE. The reasons I kill things on autopilot, and why you shouldn't autopilot are twofold: 1. it makes you easy to kill, and 2. it's a bad habit to get into, especially in a single-shard game like EVE when there are players everywhere, to not take full, 100% manual control of anything you're flying when you're undocked, and I do like to teach people not to by virtue of showing them the direct consequences.

Autopiloting/AFKing, while it gives you certain benefits (ie you don't have to do anything) is also the riskiest behaviour to take in this game. As long as you understand this risk, then you understand that you choose to take this risk at your own peril. If you die while AKF or on autopilot, and If you DO get butthurt over it, then you must understand that you brought it on yourself.

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Shederov Blood
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
#18 - 2014-07-21 04:53:44 UTC
LazyDeer wrote:
So why not kill my pod then? Like I stated in my post they only killed my shuttle in a thrasher, but not my pod? Then told me that I shouldn't Auto pilot around and I'm bad, because of?
The whole point of killing your shuttle was to get to your pod. The smacktalking mail afterwards is just an attempt to convince you, and maybe even himself, that he somehow won after failing to do so.

Who put the goat in there?

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#19 - 2014-07-21 05:22:36 UTC
Here's an idea... AP turns off if scrambled. Another hobby for griefers to just aggro and scram AP freighters to make them stop...

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Chopper Rollins
hahahlolspycorp
#20 - 2014-07-21 05:23:17 UTC
LazyDeer wrote:
See I have no problem with dieing because I auto piloted. None doesn't hurt me at all, just so confused as to why I'm the bad one due to auto piloting and is this a thing now that everyone hates auto pilots?


Underlined the relevant bit there.
Every bully claims provocation. Every mugger, every beloved leader would like to be the good guy reacting reasonably to an offence that cannot be forgiven.
Just get out of hisec, soon as possible.



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