Crime & Punishment

Still your opinion.

There is absolutely nothing in your opinion that tells us that you are talking facts here as you refuse to prove it that you do PVP and knows what that is.

Still your own opinion bro. And if you actually are going to fill this topic with tears, then at least do it with style.

When you can't even explain what's bad with my killboard, then how do you expect peoples to believe you?

The fact is that you don't do PVP yourself like i have shown peoples by showing your hooooooooooooorrible Battleclinic stats. So if you have shown the evidences of me from my own killboard, then i have shown the evidences about you being extremely bad at PVP from Battleclinic.

No, you had your own opinion that i have bad kills on my killboard. As long as you can't give an explanation on why they are bad, then it's just your own opinion.

Not only that, you should not talk about who are bad or not when it comes to PVP as your killboard tells us that you are one of the worst PVPer that exists in EVE. I'll guess you don't like to hear that fact the killboard tells us about you.

So cry me a river bro.


If you look at my Battleclinic stats here, you will see that my 'Favourite prey' is Battleships. They are clearly defenseless industrial ship i'm killing most, riiiiight?

Argus Kell have 48 kills since 2008. WOW AMAZING. Not only that, but most of you kills consists of huge blobs. True PVP hero right there. Here you have 708 involved parties: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=21183903

Not only that, but i only have 6 more losses than you since 2005 when i started to do PVP for the first time. And you have 'Success ratio: 2:1' with Argus Kell while i have 'Success ratio: 23:1'.

So i can pretty much say that you are pretty horrible when it comes to PVP and actuall fighting.


LOL, guess what?

You don't gain real PVP experience by using logistics towards your alliance mates. Real PVP experience is something you gain by killing other players in PVP ships like i use everyday.

OH NOOOOOOOEEESSSSSSS, a whole single customer isn't happy with us, IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD.

Well, this might be news @ 11 for you, but welcome to Marmite. That's how we roll. We kill our war targets. Who wouldn kill it's war targets?

And guess what?

We don't care what we kill or where we kill our war targets. Once they are war targets to us, they deserve to die in the most horrible way possible to us.


It's pretty clear that you haven't looked at my killboard yet. Not only that, but even if those battleships had been mission runners as you say (your opinion), they can at least shoot back. The fact is that we kill whatever that is a war target to us, and we are elite at killing our war targets. We are elite at making things explode independent of how butthurt you are over the ways we use to kill them.


Welcome to the thing called Mercenaries. Every mercenaries in empire cares as much about their losses and how to avoid them as much as they cares about their kills. Before you can get customers that can trust you, you have to show good statistics. And it's exactly that we are doing, we are showing extremely good killboard statistics with few losses compared to how many kills we have and that's something that our customers looks at as that's a very important part of how we runs our business as mercs.

If you think losses isn't important to mercenaries, then lol, you are not only clueless about PVP, but extremely clueless about mercenaries to.


I gain PVP experience by killing other players everyday like i do today. I gain the real experience on how effectively i can kill all of my targets without being in danger of losing my ship. Like the last fight i had in Amarr with Dropbears, that was not a risk free fight as they had 2-3 logistics while we had none.

Oh also, ganking is PVP.

Still your own opinion bro.


Haven't you figured out yet that this is your own opinion?

Your opinion doesn't tells the fact as long as you can't prove your opinions to be true.


You don't define what's considered as good or bad mercs out of what they kill.

Again, news @ 11 to you that we kill whatever ship in whatever way we want. Just because you are butthurt over us the way we kill our war targets doesn't mean we are bad to others just because we made you to fill this topic wil tears.


Tell me where in EVE you don't press F1?

Even more news @ 11 for you, but you have to press F1-F8 to be able to activate your modules in high slot. That's part of the game and not the part that decides on how we do our PVP. The thing that decides how we do our PVP is how smart we are and how we kill them and how skilled we are in fighting.

Ahhh how nice of you to admit it that you was lying by saying ganking is not PVP. You just admitted that i was right.

And lastly, did we run against Dropbears in the fight we had against them in Amarr, even though they had logistics and we didn't?

Ahhh, even more nice that you just admitted that you are lying here to.

News @ 11, ganking haulers is part of how we run our services. If we have 20 peoples on, should i tell the 19 others who can shoot the hauler to not shoot the hauler then?

You have to be completely delusional or living on another planet if you think EVE is about fair games.

We can say the same thing about the ships you have killed on your killboard. You are using several houdreds of peoples just to kill those lonely ships (yeah true PVP right there). So call ganking whatever you want, but you are way worser than anyone else when it comes to ganking defenseless missions runners / npc ratters in 0.0 space.

So yes, it's still your own opinions.


Our customers likes us pretty good. They get what they are paying us to do, that is to kill targets.

The customers pays us a sum of isk to start a war against a corp the customer want's us to start. And then we do that and do whatever we can do kill them in the most effective way. Why else do you think our massive amount of customers comes back everytime?

News @ 11 as that's because they see that we do our job extremely well and we are elite at what we are doing for our customers.


Should i complain because you are a pussie for pressing ALT + F1 to activate your Medium / Large Micro Jump Drive to get away from fights just to take an example?

No, that's a part of the game in the same way as pressing F1 to activate your guns is a huge part of the game. Yeah, i press F1 to shoot, i must be bad at EVE, ROFL.

I'm just here to break the NightmareX/Lucas kell combo.

There is alot of news @ 11 as you seems to be completely uneducated on how mercenaries run their business. No, most of the targets we shoot comes from what our CUSTOMERS want's. The rest comes from our self. Question is, why should we NOT shoot whoever we want and whoever we feel that brings us alot of isks and fun?

If you have had an easy way of earning isk, would you do it for your own good sake, or would you not do it because some angry noobs are crying over what you are doing?

Ofc you would earn those isks the easy way. We kill everyone who are war targets to us because we can and because it's fun. CCP let the users of EVE Online use those PVP mechanics as we use in empire now. And because of it, we are elite and successfull at what we are doing because we use the PVP mechanics the way they are designed to work.

If i kill 50 defenseless haulers one customer want's me to kill, then i don't think OMGOSH i killed 50 bears in haulers who can't defent themself and i must be bad. No, i will think YES YES YES, now i did something that made one of our customers very very happy. He will come back later and hire us for more. That's what we are elite at and that's what brings us more isk and even more fun again. We are successfull and elite at this.

And guess what?

Gevlon pays us a HUUUGE amount of isks every months to us like he have done for ages now, because he knows that we gives him a good service he can use. If we had been so bad as you say, then why would Gevlon pay us such a huge amount of isks?


Yeah i say it and it's my own opinion, so it must be true.


Are you blind?

Our killboard shows that we are killing alot of ships everyday where most of it are from paying customers. You said earlier that around 50% of our wars are from customers and the rest is from our self (i use your example here now). In that case, we kills alot of targets that our customers have paid us to kill. It's right there.

Our killboard now says that we have killed this so far this month: 5159 Ships killed (584.77B ISK). If we takes away 50% of that for paying customers, we have killed around 2500 ships from paying customers so far. That's pretty good and i'm sure that's elite to our customers.

Not only that, but our efficiency in isk so far this month is @ 96.57%. That's elite.


Well, if you want to kill someone, you have to press F1-F8. This must be rocket science to you it seems. OMGOSH, i have to press F1 to activate my guns lol, i must be bad at PVP because i press F1-F8 witch is something you have to do to be able to activate your guns.

You can't by any means be genius if you think someone is bad just for activating it's guns.

Oh my gawd, you have to press ALT + F1 to activate your Sensor Booster in your Med slot, omg you must be bad at PVP for getting faster locking times.

And no, Tora is fine with me for writing here as he likes to see you get trashed here on the forum. So i'm free to write here and i'm free to trash you even more here.

Maybe you should prove to us that we have so few customers as you say?

But hey, i'll guess that bullshit is to hard for you to make some effort to prove. You can't prove it as you are lying. I have all my stats ingame and i know who our paying customers are.

I'm not really allowed to reveal how many customers we have as that's none of your business. So maybe you should do your own work of proving that i'm lying about how many customers we have?

It's you that claims that we don't have many customers, so you must have sone inside evidences from our alliance, right?

In that case, prove it.


Ahhh yeah, when you say someone is dumb in EVE, it must be true, but when others says you are dumb to, then they are wrong, even with evidences others have against you. Talk about some huge ego inflating.

All i can say is that Gevlon is paying us a huge amount of isk every months for our services we provide. I'm not even gonna tell what kind of service he uses as we have alot of different services we are providing to our customers. Figure this out your self if you want to find out why he pays us so much isk each months.


Ahh ok, so your estimates are false. Thanks for admitting that. We have alot of customers after what the ingame information tells me, so other than that, this is none of your business. So if you want to prove me wrong, then provide some evidences to your own claims first.

It's you that are claiming we have few customers, so you must sit on some hard evidences right?

If yes, then prove it, if not, it's just a guess from you and your own opinion.


Yeah, i activate my damage control, webs and disruptor and joins a fleet when i'm gonna fight. So i'm doing more than just activating my guns. I even moves around when i'm fighting as long as we aren't using LRAR's on our battleships. Was there anything more you are wondering about?

I'm asking as those things seems to be new for you. Welcome to EVE?


First of all, Tora is one of the guy here that gives me likes all over the place here. He likes it that i'm trashing you all over and over all day long. Yes, he will continue to like my posts as he loves to see you cry.

English isn't my main language to speak as i'm a Norwegian, but as long as you understand what i'm saying i'll pretty much gives a crap about you crying over how i write.

First of, sorry for late answer. I was busy killing war targets while you was sitting in carebear space patting on your asteroids.

Secondly, i do whatever that brings me kills and explosions. Just in the last 2 hours, i have been killing stuffs worth 2.2 billion isk: https://zkillboard.com/character/1896934808/

In other words, i'm just doing my job by killing our war targets and being elite at doing it.


I only see you claiming that here. You aren't everybody. And secondly, it's just your opinion.


Your estimates are still your own opinion. I know the numbers and i know what's right and wrong. You don't.

I know how many customers we have as i'm in Marmite my self. You don't even have a spy in our alliance witch says us that you are even more horrible.

Lastly, will it change your mind if i shows your the proof?

That's the thing that it wont, so why should i give you the proof when you aren't going to believe them?

You are the reason yourself why no one want's to give you the proof as you are going to find out a new excuse to use then.


We won a fight yesterday against Dropbears where they had logistics and we had none of them. They had all their advantages against us. But it was them that docked up because they couldn't tank our DPS.

So i'm pretty sure i know how to PVP bro, while you don't know how to PVP. It's my opinion, so it's true.


I have got all of my likes the real way and not from the 'Get likes' topic or whatever it's called where you gains fake likes.

Doesn't change the fact that Tora enjoys it to see me make you cry like a baby.

We are professional and elite at doing mercenary services to those who want. And considering that we get more and more customers says all that we are doing very good as mercenaries. Our customers loves us and we are elite to them as they always comes back for more.