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shooting pods that have GCC will be legal. SoundWave approved. But when ?

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Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#181 - 2011-12-06 22:44:54 UTC
Jetset Movashaka wrote:
Solstice Project wrote:
Gankers cost you your ship ... and you compare that to stealing an apple.


You are bringing real life into a game.

There are only those rules the makers apply to the game.

There are only those common beliefs, (is "common beliefs" the right wording here ?)
that every player accepts by and for himself,
or those that get forced onto him ... by the makers.


Just because you believe things are "right",
doesn't mean that there needs to be a global consensus about ...
... what you believe is "right".

You could be "wrong", too.

You can't tell and don't know if it's a "regress". They could be living by the hard laws of nature,
instead of that sickening [whatever] people believe they have in "modern" societies.


Anyway, philosophy is offtopic.


The concept of "Live and Death" doesn't apply at all,
simply because we can not die.

There is no murder in EvE,
because nobody can die.

One can only commit suicide, or "his girlfriend deleted his characters".


Common-Sense is something that even in the real world doesn't get applied, (or used)
and in EvE we're still a bunch of humans sitting in front of a computer,
and aren't people from an imaginary future, living with beliefs you think these people "have" ...

... or "may have" ... but actually: "may or may not have".



LONG STORY SHORT:

You went totally offtopic.
Please stick to the topic at hand, or open another thread about it. :)


I only want to be able to legally shoot pods that have a GCC,
simply because they are criminals and because it makes sense, too.


You're right, I apologize for adding any depth or logic to this discussion. It's a video game, after all.

And no, I didn't go off-topic. I simply went deeper than you wanted to bother with. You simply read it as "TL;DR" and dismissed it, typical.


Compairing an immortal, extra legal, cybernetic pilot to an apple thief. That's depth and logic all right. The depth of a puddle and the logic of a spin doctor.

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
Jetset Movashaka
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#182 - 2011-12-06 22:47:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Jetset Movashaka
Halcyon Ingenium wrote:

Compairing an immortal, extra legal, cybernetic pilot to an apple thief. That's depth and logic all right. The depth of a puddle and the logic of a spin doctor.


If you want to add hyperbole to the logic, yes. I'm not going to sit here, and parse your logic for you. If you don't understand, and can't understand metaphor and how it applies in comparative logic, that's simply your problem. Not mine.

Once again, you've been struck by "TL;DR". Critical Thinking failure.

Either way, it's being done. So. We'll see what the result of this is.
Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#183 - 2011-12-06 22:50:31 UTC
Jetset Movashaka wrote:
Halcyon Ingenium wrote:

Compairing an immortal, extra legal, cybernetic pilot to an apple thief. That's depth and logic all right. The depth of a puddle and the logic of a spin doctor.


If you want to add hyperbole to the logic, yes. I'm not going to sit here, and parse your logic for you. If you don't understand, and can't understand metaphor and how it applies in comparative logic, that's simply your problem. Not mine.

Once again, you've been struck by "TL;DR". Critical Thinking failure.

Either way, it's being done. So. We'll see what the result of this is.


I understand it just fine. Your metaphor is **** and your comparison is dodgey if not downright dishonest. It isn't a Critical Thinking failure, its calling bullshit bullshit.

By the way, since we're already talking, do you want to buy a rifter? I've got the cheapest rifters in Metropolis. If you can find a cheaper rifter, buy it!
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#184 - 2011-12-06 23:46:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Solstice Project
Weaselior wrote:
or they're a bot, and boy a lot of ice miners don't even notice they got blown up

I couldn't agree more.
What's irritating me is the fact that you guys seem to care about bots.
To me, the whole ice interdiction seemed like a player driven unholy rage.
Besides the huge profit you were pulling off of this.


SmashTech wrote:
i'm boring.

You're boring, wrong, seem to be ********, nullsec isn't the only place in our universe,
you're not special and - i judge you by your words - not better than the typical highsec idiot i've seen hundreds of times already.


Jetset Movashaka wrote:
I know all about every fact of life, especially about future ethics.


You seem to be a typical human being in our modern society.
You don't seem to think deeper than your own system-taught beliefs and THAT'S typical !

If you steal my apple although your live doesn't depend on it,
then i ******* guarantee you that i will break your hand for that.
If you need the apple because you need food, then JUST ASK FOR HELP AND YOU SHALL BE GIVEN !

Any future civilization will HOPEFULLY obey the hard laws of nature, so evolution can do what it does best.
Like it did for quite a long time already. It works. People just believe they are better.

It's not a *regress*. A *regress* is what we have today !

We have to live in this sick excuse of what we call society, with people having no reason, no self responsibility,
no clue about pain, opinions without any knowledge behind it and no idea how to handle their emotional well being
except via buying **** nobody really needs anyway. (and a few other points, too)

Now there are plenty of people who would pick out something that COULD be read between the lines,
just so they have some kind of response that will show what a bad/stupid/etc. kind of person i am ...

... go masturbate about your hypocrisy and open a new thread up about it when you're done.


The goon is way smarter than you two !
Rellik B00n
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#185 - 2011-12-06 23:58:53 UTC
SmashTech wrote:

This, like the Crucible expansion, is just another buff to gankers and boat-violencers, and isn't going to help the average pubbie. But we can leave it to said pubbie demand this kind of change. And frankly, I'm fine with it.


dammit why does it always have to be about you!

/slams door
[Of a request for change ask: Who Benefits?](https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=199765)
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#186 - 2011-12-07 01:13:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
CCP Soundwave wrote:
I'm going to make this happen.

Death to pods!


This is a really bad idea.

But hey, maybe I can prove it later after I bait some idiots into shooting me?

Consider this before protecting your macromining playerbase! Thanks!

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#187 - 2011-12-07 01:30:52 UTC
Andski wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:
I'm going to make this happen.

Death to pods!


This is a really bad idea.

But hey, maybe I can prove it later after I bait some idiots into shooting me?

Consider this before protecting your macromining playerbase! Thanks!



Can't..... resist.... must... fight it........ urgh....


UMAD? Lol

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#188 - 2011-12-07 01:31:39 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Andski wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:
I'm going to make this happen.

Death to pods!


This is a really bad idea.

But hey, maybe I can prove it later after I bait some idiots into shooting me?

Consider this before protecting your macromining playerbase! Thanks!



Can't..... resist.... must... fight it........ urgh....


UMAD? Lol


Uthink pods are that easy to catch without bubbles? lmao

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
el alasar
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#189 - 2011-12-07 01:32:45 UTC
Andski wrote:
But hey, maybe I can prove it later after I bait some idiots into shooting me?

please do, this will just provide a more engraining learning experience, which can be considered very helful!
Andski wrote:
Consider this before protecting your macromining playerbase! Thanks!

how would a bot be more protected now? you think mining bots do pod now?

check the moderated 10000 papercuts evelopedia page! http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Little_things_and_ideas_-_low_hanging_fruit_-_10000_papercuts comment, bump(!) and like what you like
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#190 - 2011-12-07 01:36:41 UTC
el alasar wrote:
please do, this will just provide a more engraining learning experience, which can be considered very helful!

how would a bot be more protected now? you think mining bots do pod now?


nah, soundwave opened up a whole new venue of griefplay in his attempt to discourage mining bots from being ganked, i'm perfectly fine with that!

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#191 - 2011-12-07 01:40:39 UTC
Andski wrote:
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
Andski wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:
I'm going to make this happen.

Death to pods!


This is a really bad idea.

But hey, maybe I can prove it later after I bait some idiots into shooting me?

Consider this before protecting your macromining playerbase! Thanks!



Can't..... resist.... must... fight it........ urgh....


UMAD? Lol


Uthink pods are that easy to catch without bubbles? lmao



I never lost one in Amamake.

Why do you think that anyone who is not a goon is stupid? I see the word "pubbie" thrown around a lot too.


Once there was a country where people thought they were better than others simply by being in a certain group, and attached names for the "other" group that they considered inferior to them.

You'd think after the advent of gulags and gas chambers people would have fostered an aversion to such modes of thinking.

Meanwhile, if it's no problem, why are you here complaining?

There must be something more to this.

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#192 - 2011-12-07 01:42:49 UTC
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:
I never lost one in Amamake.


exactly?

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Eian
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#193 - 2011-12-07 16:01:03 UTC
Solstice Project wrote:
Yogsoloth wrote:
Translation =

Please let me kill unarmed pods in high sec without repercussion, as I am too scared to go into low sec or null. Plus my KB is terribad and I could use some help.


You, sir, are obviously a natural born genius in psychology
and posses the gift of being able to remotely read peoples minds.


I am very impressed.


The real scary thing is that guy could potentially breed. Leading to more of him, then more and more and.. Oh gawd, ******* zombie apocalypse!
Callic Veratar
#194 - 2011-12-07 16:29:37 UTC
Andski wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:
I'm going to make this happen.

Death to pods!


This is a really bad idea.

But hey, maybe I can prove it later after I bait some idiots into shooting me?

Consider this before protecting your macromining playerbase! Thanks!


So, what you're saying is that you don't like the idea that if you blow up a defenseless ship, anyone in system can shoot your defenseless pod?

IMAGINE THAT
Krios Ahzek
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#195 - 2011-12-07 16:40:23 UTC
I don't know the exact mechanics but it's quite probable that if you shoot his pod he or his friends can come back legally in a sweet combat ship and wipe the belt clean

 Though All Men Do Despise Us
Thomas Abernathy
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#196 - 2011-12-07 17:06:27 UTC
Andski wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:
I'm going to make this happen.

Death to pods!


This is a really bad idea.

But hey, maybe I can prove it later after I bait some idiots into shooting me?

Consider this before protecting your macromining playerbase! Thanks!



That only works if you assume the defender in question is dumber that a Goon....Lol

And while I admit to flying high, even i'm not spaced enough to fall for those tricks....
And I think your confused, this is not so much about protecting the miners, as it is about annoying Goons, that is the real fun in the game....Cool




"Fighting CCD since 2139"
Solstice Project
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#197 - 2011-12-07 17:13:34 UTC
Thomas Abernathy wrote:
Andski wrote:
CCP Soundwave wrote:
I'm going to make this happen.

Death to pods!


This is a really bad idea.

But hey, maybe I can prove it later after I bait some idiots into shooting me?

Consider this before protecting your macromining playerbase! Thanks!



That only works if you assume the defender in question is dumber that a Goon....Lol

And while I admit to flying high, even i'm not spaced enough to fall for those tricks....
And I think your confused, this is not so much about protecting the miners, as it is about annoying Goons, that is the real fun in the game....Cool


Actually, it's not. I must know, it's my thread.
The goons had nothing to do with why i wanted this change to happen.

On the other hand, what you guys want to make of it, that's all yours for sure.
Myrdraeus Keaunt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#198 - 2011-12-07 17:59:00 UTC
Krios Ahzek wrote:
I don't know the exact mechanics but it's quite probable that if you shoot his pod he or his friends can come back legally in a sweet combat ship and wipe the belt clean


If you get the pod it should remove the concord response when they leave station in a ship. I mean, it was the other clone that committed the crime, right? Why should concord blast innocent clones? For all we know, someone put PCP in that clone's petri dish.

And yeah, standard combat aggression flags should apply. Shooting at a criminal allows them to shoot back in every other case, it should here as well.
Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#199 - 2011-12-07 18:18:31 UTC
Much Laughter and Mirth is being had by me reading this thread.

I bask in the Chaos of this thread and fully endorse everything that happens on it

Inner Sayings of BrujoLoco: http://eve-files.com/sig/brujoloco
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