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Fleet Merge 2 - The Return
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Rab See
Stellar Dynamics
#1 - 2014-07-09 12:44:30 UTC
Its one of those things that in small gang PVP is annoying. You find a target thats too big to chew on, and ping a mate whos running around somewhere with another small gang. Lets join up and kill that thing.

Usually - its a case of defleet, invite one to a wing, let them reinvite, rejig as required. Its always a PITA, particularly if there's no shared channel with some, or alts etc, and Logi squads etc all needing a rejig.

Proposal: Invite X to Wing/Squad, bring her fleet.

Basically, if someone is running a Wing (or squad) that fits into your fleet, then they can be invited in to a newly created one. The merge requires no 'defleet/refleet', just a different type of invite.

Obviously, the owner or Fleet Commander can disable this in a fleet setup to offer some protection. Additionally, like disabling fleet warp, any member can disable 'auto merge'.
Bohneik Itohn
10.K
#2 - 2014-07-09 13:24:16 UTC
Seems like a good idea.

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Arya Regnar
Darwins Right Hand
#3 - 2014-07-09 14:08:02 UTC
This would be incredibly useful.
Of course only fleet boss should be able to invite people like that.

This could be awoxy as hell.

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Rab See
Stellar Dynamics
#4 - 2014-07-09 14:47:41 UTC
Arya Regnar wrote:
This would be incredibly useful.
Of course only fleet boss should be able to invite people like that.

This could be awoxy as hell.


Yes, definitely.

Fleet Boss A invites Fleet Boss B's linked fleet to Wing 3 (for example). Fleet Boss B accepts and transfers all squads to Wing 3 of A.

Any B member can deny this request, 'popup' as usual, or disable it to simply drop fleet or stay in fleet B perhaps.

Make sure that when this feature is added, its disabled by default.
Karash Amerius
The Seven Shadows
Scotch And Tea.
#5 - 2014-07-09 16:18:44 UTC
Actually a very good idea.

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Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#6 - 2014-07-09 16:51:35 UTC
Yes +1

This issue and implementation was discussed a lot with merging/reforming fleets for Incursions. Some of the ISK/hour hunters will be very happy if this gets done.

+1 on their behalf Blink
Rab See
Stellar Dynamics
#7 - 2014-07-10 12:28:26 UTC
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
Yes +1

This issue and implementation was discussed a lot with merging/reforming fleets for Incursions. Some of the ISK/hour hunters will be very happy if this gets done.

+1 on their behalf Blink


Hadn't even imagined anything outside normal PVP, but yes, can see where it would be useful even in PVE.
Velicitia
XS Tech
#8 - 2014-07-10 12:43:19 UTC
yes, but only allowed if your FC (assuming he's the "boss") has the right skills to add a squad / wing.

Kinda like the old days --> anyone could make a "gang" (i.e. a squad), but you needed leadership (FC?) to convert that into a fleet.

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Rab See
Stellar Dynamics
#9 - 2014-07-11 09:35:28 UTC
Given how desirable this might be, would be nice to have some dev input on the problems in implementing it.
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#10 - 2014-07-11 12:45:14 UTC
I can see a great many ways in which this could be useful - particularly if the reverse was also possible (I have a fleet consisting of two wings; I choose to divide my forces (perhaps to get more fights by having smaller groups, perhaps because I have enough of everything in the waitlist wing to allow two seperate Incursion fleets...etc) so I take Wing 1 and it remains as is while Wing 2 hives off and becomes Wing 1 of a new fleet (without having to have everyone in Wing 2 defleet, refleet and reorganise...)

If this is feasible then please, CCP, "Make it so."
Rab See
Stellar Dynamics
#11 - 2014-07-12 11:16:43 UTC
Jacob Holland wrote:
I can see a great many ways in which this could be useful - particularly if the reverse was also possible (I have a fleet consisting of two wings; I choose to divide my forces (perhaps to get more fights by having smaller groups, perhaps because I have enough of everything in the waitlist wing to allow two seperate Incursion fleets...etc) so I take Wing 1 and it remains as is while Wing 2 hives off and becomes Wing 1 of a new fleet (without having to have everyone in Wing 2 defleet, refleet and reorganise...)

If this is feasible then please, CCP, "Make it so."



Yes, this would also be great. It just a mess at the moment, and I suspect everyone would benefit from large scale to small all around.
Rab See
Stellar Dynamics
#12 - 2014-07-14 08:45:49 UTC

When is this going to gain the traction it deserves?

C'mon CCP.
Rab See
Stellar Dynamics
#13 - 2014-07-18 12:03:35 UTC
Traction people. Can you get corpmates, alliances to at least 'like' this. Its a winner.
epicurus ataraxia
Illusion of Solitude.
Illusion of Solitude
#14 - 2014-07-18 12:14:08 UTC
This seems like a useful suggestion, worth spending the time involved in looking into it.
+1 for it being investigated by CSM/CCP

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Thorr VonAsgard
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2014-07-18 13:35:29 UTC
Rab See wrote:
Arya Regnar wrote:
This would be incredibly useful.
Of course only fleet boss should be able to invite people like that.

This could be awoxy as hell.


Yes, definitely.

Fleet Boss A invites Fleet Boss B's linked fleet to Wing 3 (for example). Fleet Boss B accepts and transfers all squads to Wing 3 of A.

Any B member can deny this request, 'popup' as usual, or disable it to simply drop fleet or stay in fleet B perhaps.

Make sure that when this feature is added, its disabled by default.



+1 with this configuration

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Rab See
Stellar Dynamics
#16 - 2014-07-21 08:55:02 UTC
Back to the grindstone, and a chance to push this onto the agenda.
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2014-07-21 16:13:06 UTC
+1
Mazzara
Band of the Red Sun
#18 - 2014-07-21 22:38:56 UTC
Good idea
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Rab See
Stellar Dynamics
#19 - 2014-07-23 10:42:00 UTC
Traction:
synonyms: grip, friction, adhesion, purchase, resistance

hoping for some dev input.
Dally Lama
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-07-23 12:00:31 UTC
If they implement this, I will be gleefuly awaiting the TMC article about the FC who AWOX'd his fleet using this tactic.

+1

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