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Best blockade runner for 1 month of training ?
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The General Failure
Geuzen Inc
#21 - 2014-07-18 07:19:58 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
[Prorator, Prorator fit]

Inertia Stabilizers II
Inertia Stabilizers II
Inertia Stabilizers II
Inertia Stabilizers II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
[Empty Med slot]

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
[Empty High slot]

Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Slot in a high grade Ascendancy implant set and a WS-618 hardwire and you get:

18 AU/sec
2.89 second Align time
1847 m/s
3.63km3 cargo

Aim for this as your goal.


I'd go with nano's instead of Inertia Stabilizers II, they are not as good on aligning part, but your signature doesn't light up like the 4th July. and Nano's make you faster.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#22 - 2014-07-18 09:14:15 UTC
The General Failure wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
[Prorator, Prorator fit]

Inertia Stabilizers II
Inertia Stabilizers II
Inertia Stabilizers II
Inertia Stabilizers II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
[Empty Med slot]

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
[Empty High slot]

Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

Slot in a high grade Ascendancy implant set and a WS-618 hardwire and you get:

18 AU/sec
2.89 second Align time
1847 m/s
3.63km3 cargo

Aim for this as your goal.


I'd go with nano's instead of Inertia Stabilizers II, they are not as good on aligning part, but your signature doesn't light up like the 4th July. and Nano's make you faster.


Sig doesn't matter as you cloak before they can lock you and align time is more important than speed as it gets you into warp faster.
The General Failure
Geuzen Inc
#23 - 2014-07-18 10:31:17 UTC
the signature surplus is bigger than than the time difference in warp.

and whether or not you cloak or don't cloak you will be visible for at least a second, which can be enough if the links are used, especially if you blow up your signature. not to mention the need to undock

If possible fit some resistance amplifiers as well just to survive the occasional smart bomb
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#24 - 2014-07-18 12:19:20 UTC
The General Failure wrote:
the signature surplus is bigger than than the time difference in warp.

and whether or not you cloak or don't cloak you will be visible for at least a second, which can be enough if the links are used, especially if you blow up your signature. not to mention the need to undock

If possible fit some resistance amplifiers as well just to survive the occasional smart bomb


Fly it right and it is impossible to get a lock before you cloak. Use insta undocks on stations.

Nobody uses smartbombs on gates in high sec so a tank simply isn't needed, fit one if you want but keep the fit as I posted. Flown correctly and this fit is as close to impossible to stop as you can get.
The General Failure
Geuzen Inc
#25 - 2014-07-18 13:02:01 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
The General Failure wrote:
the signature surplus is bigger than than the time difference in warp.

and whether or not you cloak or don't cloak you will be visible for at least a second, which can be enough if the links are used, especially if you blow up your signature. not to mention the need to undock

If possible fit some resistance amplifiers as well just to survive the occasional smart bomb


Fly it right and it is impossible to get a lock before you cloak. Use insta undocks on stations.

Nobody uses smartbombs on gates in high sec so a tank simply isn't needed, fit one if you want but keep the fit as I posted. Flown correctly and this fit is as close to impossible to stop as you can get.



Flying it right is only a part of it, lag more than once plays a part in the loss of blockade runners.

Eve is bigger than High sec, he spoke of dangerous area's, if you use that fit for lets say PI in low sec you're going to lose it due to the fact you're easy to lock.

quick look in EFT gives a difference of 0.4 seconds in favor of the 4 inertia stabilizers II with an align time of 2.9 sec.
at the cost of 37m signature increase

The Nano fiber structure II gives an align time of 3.3 sec. and a 74m/s speed increase without the 37 m signature increase.
Avern
Doomheim
#26 - 2014-07-18 13:37:09 UTC
This is all about High sec to Nullsec if the danger level wasn't clear enough.
The General Failure
Geuzen Inc
#27 - 2014-07-18 13:50:08 UTC
In the end the choice is yours.

I've given you the differences in stats between the Nano's and the Inertia's

you should go with what feels best, or try them both, it's not that they are overly expensive.

For me it's the nano's the speed and the low signature win it for me instead of the small align advantage.

I usually have a resistance mod and more than once I use a After burner over a MDW because the only time I need one is when I get tackled and at those times your MDW usually doesn't work. fingers crossed and pray you make it back to the gate.
Dato Koppla
Spaghetti Militia
#28 - 2014-07-18 14:28:43 UTC
To all the guys here saying one month of training isn't enough for a Blockade Runner alt, you're wrong. I trained my alt for a Prorator and it took me only 1 Plex to activate dual character training (with I think 14 hours extra for which I stopped my main training) and it can fit all the goodies like T2 Cargo expanders, T2 Nanos, warp core stabs, shield extenders (meta 4), shield hardeners (meta 4), MWD, T2 cloak/covops cloak etc. Basically everything you'd need for a dedicated hauler.

In fact, recently I've been using an Impel with 4x WCS and 3x Nanos and MWD + Cloak and I have been able to run even the most brutal instalock gatecamps in lowsec with sebo'd Lokis for tackle and even a camp with a HIC. If you know how to do the MWD + Cloak trick correctly you're nigh uncatchable, not to mention you have to be hit with 7 points to be stopped. This allows you to carry even a packaged Battleship around lowsec. Obviously you need instaundock bookmarks on all your relevant stations but those are easy to get.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#29 - 2014-07-18 16:06:48 UTC
The General Failure wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
The General Failure wrote:
the signature surplus is bigger than than the time difference in warp.

and whether or not you cloak or don't cloak you will be visible for at least a second, which can be enough if the links are used, especially if you blow up your signature. not to mention the need to undock

If possible fit some resistance amplifiers as well just to survive the occasional smart bomb


Fly it right and it is impossible to get a lock before you cloak. Use insta undocks on stations.

Nobody uses smartbombs on gates in high sec so a tank simply isn't needed, fit one if you want but keep the fit as I posted. Flown correctly and this fit is as close to impossible to stop as you can get.



Flying it right is only a part of it, lag more than once plays a part in the loss of blockade runners.

Eve is bigger than High sec, he spoke of dangerous area's, if you use that fit for lets say PI in low sec you're going to lose it due to the fact you're easy to lock.

quick look in EFT gives a difference of 0.4 seconds in favor of the 4 inertia stabilizers II with an align time of 2.9 sec.
at the cost of 37m signature increase

The Nano fiber structure II gives an align time of 3.3 sec. and a 74m/s speed increase without the 37 m signature increase.



Lag hasn't played a part in EVE for years. If something locks you it is because you messed up. If you are in low sec and null you should be scanning those gates before you warp to them and using perches. I stabs give the best agility and given the cloak the added sig just isn't a problem.
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#30 - 2014-07-21 10:31:15 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
[Prorator, Prorator fit]


Aim for this as your goal.


Nice goal, but not for someone with 1 month of training. Minmatar industrial are better, IMHO, due to agility, speed and cargo.

I would use Wreathe untill you can fly a prowler like this:
[Prowler, stealth delivery]
Local Hull Conversion Inertial Stabilizers I
Local Hull Conversion Inertial Stabilizers I
Local Hull Conversion Inertial Stabilizers I

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
[empty high slot]

Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer II

This Prowler fit will give you much bigger cargo, same agility (well 0,1 sec difference is not recognisable by normal human), smaller signature (harder to hit), better EHP (even cloaked ship can be killed by smartbomb camp).

Wreathe Cloak/MWD fit:
[Wreathe, Wreathe: Hauler]
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Damage Control II
Local Hull Conversion Nanofiber Structure I
Local Hull Conversion Nanofiber Structure I

Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Medium Capacitor Battery II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Improved Cloaking Device II
[empty high slot]

Medium Cargohold Optimization I
Medium Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Medium Hyperspatial Velocity Optimizer I


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Avern
Doomheim
#31 - 2014-07-21 10:39:03 UTC
Hello

Just to make clear on timelines I put my alt I put on a 3 month sub and just popped the two week +9 prototype cerebral accelerator into it a few days late but hey 10 days still worth it.

I don't want to do things half way with it, I'd rather the role my character be good for is well fitted and skilled than "Might work".

In just want to try get it into some sort of community, I find transporting goods quite peaceful.
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