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Things we can now do in .4 sec systems

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Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works
#1 - 2014-07-17 01:10:13 UTC
So we can moon mine in .4 and do reactions now.

The option shows that I can delegate fighters to another player, but then I get the:

01:05:21 Notify You cannot do that. That drone command requires you to be in a solar system with a security level less than 0.4.

I thought these restrictions were being removed?
CCP Goliath
C C P
C C P Alliance
#2 - 2014-07-17 18:07:00 UTC
Under consideration, but definitely not for Crius.

CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath
MicDeath Titan
No Mans Corp
#3 - 2014-07-17 18:52:27 UTC
Out of curiosity CCP Goliath, what is the difference between 0.3 and 0.4 that makes assigning fighters/F-bombers in 0.4 a bad thing compared to 0.3?
I can understand 0.5 and above, but I can't see the apparent reason for the lockout in 0.4 vs 0.3.

Note: I am not a super/carrier pilot, this is something I am truly curious about.
MailDeadDrop
Archon Industries
#4 - 2014-07-17 19:25:24 UTC
MicDeath Titan wrote:
Out of curiosity CCP Goliath, what is the difference between 0.3 and 0.4 that makes assigning fighters/F-bombers in 0.4 a bad thing compared to 0.3?
I can understand 0.5 and above, but I can't see the apparent reason for the lockout in 0.4 vs 0.3.

Note: I am not a super/carrier pilot, this is something I am truly curious about.

I believe it was recently revealed to be a classic programmer off-by-one error (or rather "off-by-0.1" in this case).

MDD
Apelacja
Sad Najwyzszy
#5 - 2014-07-17 21:49:48 UTC
<= and <.....

common
Lothras Andastar
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-07-18 12:08:32 UTC
Lore reasons mostly. Same why we couldn't mine in 0.4 or anchor in 0.9.

Because the Legacy Code has too much Psssssssssssssssh, nothing will ever get fixed until CCP stop wasting money on failed sparkle MMOs and instead rewrite the entire backend of EvE from scratch.
Carribean Queen
Vadimus Quarrier Works
#7 - 2014-07-18 20:07:47 UTC
Lothras Andastar wrote:
Lore reasons mostly. Same why we couldn't mine in 0.4 or anchor in 0.9.


No longer the case though. We can moon mine in .4 and perform reactions in .4 now. They have removed those restrictions. Just singularly not the fighters limitation of all the things we could no longer do. Has nothing to do with lore, and everything to do with changing a single simple line of code!
Chicken Exroofer
Regional Assault and Recon
#8 - 2014-07-19 02:44:18 UTC
So... you will be able to moon mine in .4 space, where you cannot hold sov,?
Does this mean we will be able to moon mine in wormholes, where you also cannot hold sov?

I vaguely remember sov having something to do with why I can't moon mine in my wormhole.
Or I am I completely brainfarting on that?
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#9 - 2014-07-19 04:04:27 UTC
Well either 0.4 should be lowsec or it shouldn't.

You don't need sov to moon mine, wormhole moons simply cannot be mined full stop (as they have nothing to mine).
Sara Tosa
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#10 - 2014-07-19 13:42:22 UTC
Lothras Andastar wrote:
Lore reasons mostly. Same why we couldn't mine in 0.4 or anchor in 0.9.

lore get written to make a rationale for game mechanics, not the other way around.
Lena Lazair
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2014-07-19 17:40:46 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Well either 0.4 should be lowsec or it shouldn't.


I disagree. Condensing all of Empire into low vs high is an ongoing mistake CCP is making that causes all of New Eden to feel smaller and homogenous. They might as well just get rid of all sec ranks from 0.1 to 0.9 at this point. Now that even the POS/standing stuff is evened out, about the only thing left to normalize is CONCORD response times.