EVE General Discussion

Greif and greifing are not words. Stop it, all of you.


vvv edit: FINE. They're not English words and we are conversing in English so stop using it.

Good article. I can imagine the response if Ripard Teg had written it, though.

Did it today. Whee we've got newbies in local and even on our jabber.

Rather give procurers though, much tankier. Then again, like mentioned, starting them off mining might not be the best thing to do for them.

The CODE pistoleros I know would check before shooting a raw newbro. Probably would, I think. Well, it wouldn't be their intention to deliberately shoot a newbro. Not i it came to their intention that he was a newbro.

But I'm only speaking for the few guys I know and battle who are officially dedicated CODE agents. Random gankers out there, who knows. They have no mamas or daddies or anyone else to report to.

That's exactly what I meant. They basically bored her out of the game with that crap.

How are frigate and destroyer producers being wiped out if there are orders for them to produce them at a gaurenteed profit?

How is greater destruction an isk fountain?

This is GOOD for producers and GOOD for the economy and GOOD for new player retention and playstyle.

If he has had an awakening of awareness, and has realised that what is good for EvE is also in his own self interest, I have no objection whatsoever in the fact that he, as well as all the other players of EvE benefit.

New player retention, and more players enjoying the game and having a GOOD experience is in everyone's interest apart from those who wish to see EvE and therefore CCP burn.

But it is clear in the forums there are MANY who either deliberately wish that to happen or are so unaware that they resist all changes that might resolve things no matter how small.

I am sure that Starfleet with multiple Planets populations can afford to wipe out all but the very best, and only retain a small elite cadre.

I do not believe CCP have that opportunity!

If however, obtaining replacement basic Frigates and destroyers did not require the player to mine and mission incessantly to replace, then perhaps your idea makes sense (unless CCP wish their main player base to be miners and missioners, and They state otherwise).

The main problem for new players, is not Griefing, ganking, or Awoxing, the issue for NEW players is the time cost involved in replacement.

These are issues that have two sides, and replacement of losses is less for more experienced players, unless they put 10billion in a hauler, and they Should spend a long time replacing them, and time to consider how bad an idea that was.

So in short, stop trying to change human nature, gankers will gank, griefers will grief, and new players are inexperienced and will die, lots.

Reduce the "time cost" of dying for new players, and they will dust themselves off, remember that capsuleers are immortal, and get back in the fight.

The "time cost" for dying for new characters

1) Is microscopic compared to older characters

2) Is avoidable anyway if your clone is up to date

Although it would be kind of hilarious to see how the fast the gushing isk faucet that idea (which literally allows miners to mine isk) would create would wash the entire economy down the toilet.

Assuming the vast isk-injection doesn't fry everything, it would create a hard floor on material value, that would cannon the cost of everything else through the roof - assuming any manufacturer bothers making anything else, and risk dealing with an unstable market instead of a guaranteed instant purchase at a set price. It would probably immolate the entire game!