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Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#41 - 2014-07-16 10:00:54 UTC
one got to have balls to make such joke-troll... it'a like taking a selfie in coffin with Dracula.
Kiryen O'Bannon
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#42 - 2014-07-16 10:05:28 UTC
Arkady Romanov wrote:
One of the great things about EVE is its permanence. Some ships will never be seen again, and people LIKE it that way. You should have heard the uproar when CCP suggested reintroducing the Gold Magnate some 10 years after its initial extinction.


Which, frankly, is a bit silly. Items of which only one ever existed make sense in fantasy MMOs. In science fiction, the "we can't eve build any more of them" is sort of silly. No plans, no prototype and no backup? Do you people even science?

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Nalelmir Ahashion
Industrial Management and Engineering
Mouth Trumpet Cavalry
#43 - 2014-07-16 10:08:44 UTC
well I will always have a dirty fantasy for the Apocalypse Imperial Issue....
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Apocalypse_Imperial_Issue
Victor Andall
#44 - 2014-07-16 10:15:42 UTC
Those lethal AFK cloakers got all of them.

I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?

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Inzax
#45 - 2014-07-16 11:23:15 UTC
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
There should be a museum station in concord space or somewhere rare.. maybe eve gate system?

where u can dock and walk in station and watch all the models and ships which have been introduced into the game at some points.. old models as well as new ones..


just walk on memory lane see them in their glory.

then return into the rookie ship and go somewhere else.


I always thought it would be nice to allow players to keep their old ships in their original configuration. If you wanted to upgrade a modest fee would pay for the overhaul. The ship would be brought up to current specs and hull design. Otherwise, you could keep your ship old school.....undock just for a Sunday drive.

Yea.....server load blah, blah, blah.
Arkady Romanov
Whole Squid
#46 - 2014-07-16 12:38:20 UTC
Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:
Arkady Romanov wrote:
One of the great things about EVE is its permanence. Some ships will never be seen again, and people LIKE it that way. You should have heard the uproar when CCP suggested reintroducing the Gold Magnate some 10 years after its initial extinction.


Which, frankly, is a bit silly. Items of which only one ever existed make sense in fantasy MMOs. In science fiction, the "we can't eve build any more of them" is sort of silly. No plans, no prototype and no backup? Do you people even science?


I honestly never want to see a live one in game ever again. To me that would make it less special.

By all means, add other, new limited edition ships from time to time and let them get rare/extinct too.

Whole Squid: Get Inked.
Pine Marten
Doomheim
#47 - 2014-07-16 12:40:21 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
This thread would be remarkably different if you had asked about an Ishukone Watch Scorpion....






What are those? Which alliance won those and at which tourny? I don't remember them at all.
Kiryen O'Bannon
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
#48 - 2014-07-16 12:45:19 UTC
Arkady Romanov wrote:
Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:
Arkady Romanov wrote:
One of the great things about EVE is its permanence. Some ships will never be seen again, and people LIKE it that way. You should have heard the uproar when CCP suggested reintroducing the Gold Magnate some 10 years after its initial extinction.


Which, frankly, is a bit silly. Items of which only one ever existed make sense in fantasy MMOs. In science fiction, the "we can't eve build any more of them" is sort of silly. No plans, no prototype and no backup? Do you people even science?


I honestly never want to see a live one in game ever again. To me that would make it less special.


So?

Quote:
By all means, add other, new limited edition ships from time to time and let them get rare/extinct too.


Which is silly.

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Arkady Romanov
Whole Squid
#49 - 2014-07-16 12:49:30 UTC
No, they were a series of special edition ships which were given by CCP to an EVE micro lottery provider known as Somer Blink. Blink was controversial for a couple of reasons, as it was also a timecard/plex seller (can't remember which), which was done in such a way combined with the gambling that people had some (not unreasonable) moral objections to. I believe they also had a strategy that monetized the system for them. That practice was stopped because it whiffed of RMT.

CCP rather liked the Somer Blink system and offered them the opportunity to make a huge profit by giving them a bunch of Ishukone Scorpions to raffle off (for an in game ISK profit for Somer). Many people objected to Somer receiving special treatment.

The argument was;

a. What makes them so special that they should get a stack of special edition ships in the first place?

b. Why should they be entitled to profit from this?

c. What guarantee do you have that they won't just keep the ships (the answer from CCP: none).


A mega threadnaught ensued.

Whole Squid: Get Inked.
Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#50 - 2014-07-16 13:13:45 UTC
Kiryen O'Bannon wrote:
So?

2011 character, so you must have been around last year when they thought about brining it back. The forums where on fire. If that many people think its a bad, and CCP listen...its probably a bad idea. Not to mention people like Chribba and Entity where also cautioning that CCP were about to make a bad mistake.

Eve is about loss, when you lose a ship, its gone. Simple as that. This isn't WoW where your stuff if giftwrapped and given back to you when you die. This is Eve. Actions gave consequences and the Gold Magnate was lost. That is how it should remain.

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Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#51 - 2014-07-16 15:42:06 UTC
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
There should be a museum station in concord space or somewhere rare.. maybe eve gate system?

where u can dock and walk in station and watch all the models and ships which have been introduced into the game at some points.. old models as well as new ones..


just walk on memory lane see them in their glory.

then return into the rookie ship and go somewhere else.


Now THERE'S an idea. It'd be a ***** to put in, but dammit, it'd be a good addition to the game.

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"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

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Li Quiao
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#52 - 2014-07-16 19:10:10 UTC
Pine Marten wrote:
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
This thread would be remarkably different if you had asked about an Ishukone Watch Scorpion....






What are those? Which alliance won those and at which tourny? I don't remember them at all.


Google is a wonderful thing. It's one of the NES special paintjobs, which was the OP's point.
Celise Katelo
State War Academy
Caldari State
#53 - 2014-07-16 19:42:26 UTC
Nalelmir Ahashion wrote:
There should be a museum station in concord space or somewhere rare.. maybe eve gate system?

where u can dock and walk in station and watch all the models and ships which have been introduced into the game at some points.. old models as well as new ones..


just walk on memory lane see them in their glory.

then return into the rookie ship and go somewhere else.


I like this idea Big smile

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#54 - 2014-07-16 19:55:00 UTC
I for one like the fact that there is only one Federate Megathron and that there will never be another.
Marc Durant
#55 - 2014-07-16 20:09:01 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
I for one like the fact that there is only one Federate Megathron and that there will never be another.


Exactly this.

In EVE choices have consequences. They were limited ships and their owners chose to get them blown up, so now they're gone. That's how it should be.

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Opertone
State War Academy
Caldari State
#56 - 2014-07-16 21:25:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Opertone
Hmmm, it can be nice to have a ship which can perform like a Raven State Issue.

8 launchers, extra hitpoints - mmm

For people who really care there is an alternative... the new implants +6% for missiles, explosion radius, rate of fire, explosion velocity etc, each worth around 700 mill. 2,5 bill for hardwirings.

Some officer Ballistic Control Units, add more billions of isk. Currently sold for 12 bill ISK

So around 40 bill ISK for a boost of performance 1% + 1% + 2,5% + 2,5% *08 + 2,5%*06 = 8 % damage boost, over standard faction gear and regular +5% hardwirings. (11% gain over tech 2 BCUs)

And then you can get 8 % BOOST comparable to extra 14,28% fire power worth of 8th launcher on Raven State Issue.

40 bill ISK is so much closer than 300 bill ISK.

This post sums up why the 'best' work with DCM inc.

WARP DRIVE makes eve boring

really - add warping align time 300% on gun aggression and eve becomes great again
Imiarr Timshae
Funny Men In Funny Hats
#57 - 2014-07-16 21:42:46 UTC
Sorry OP. That's content you're never going to access because you didn't play early enough.

Have fun with the rest of the content.

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#58 - 2014-07-16 22:39:00 UTC
BrundleMeth wrote:
I saw one for sale about 2 years ago. I forget who had it, but they were asking 500 Billion. The bid was at 250 Billion. The owner said he'd throw in 100 Billion worth of Officer Mods...

Don't know if it ever got sold...

http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=1426785&page=1#1 a little more than 2 years ago P

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2014-07-16 22:44:49 UTC
Reiisha wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
there is one rare ship, however, that nobody will ever set their eyes again, and it's called the Golden Magnate.

goddamnit Tyrrax Thorrk, you had to lose it to m0oP


I wouldn't mind CCP organizing another succession trial again once Jamyl somehow kicks the bucket (which is long overdue imho). Could even be a cool step towards giving capsuleers even more power.

the Gold Magnate is lost, let it be lost.


...now if the next succession trial gives out a pink magnate....

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Desert Ice78
Gryphons of the Western Wind
#60 - 2014-07-16 22:55:54 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
a pink magnate....

I have it on good authority that CCP Punkturis has one already.

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