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solo pvp viable?

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Lamda Korr
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-07-14 14:57:14 UTC
I've been working with markets and non-combat exploration (love wormholes) for a while. It suits my solo playstyle and limited game time. However, I'd like to learn to solo pvp. Quick questions.


  • Is roaming in a merlin or variant viable? If so any resources on doing this? My tengu is too expensive to experiment.
  • Can I do FW without premaritally losing access to other faction space?
  • Any really good guides/video on solo pvp? I can't tell which are outdated and there seems to be disagreement on whether a frigate viable or not.
Thorr VonAsgard
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-07-14 15:13:02 UTC
Solo pvp is always viable but you need experience.

You will die horribly again and again and again before knowing what to do exactly at the right time.

But one you get it, you will enjoy every fights you'll make.

A mate did 1 vs 40 by killing 20 to 30 of the ennemy fleet.
Check his kb : https://zkillboard.com/character/226755617/

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Is roaming in a merlin or variant viable? If so any resources on doing this? My tengu is too expensive to experiment.


Yes. Almost every ship is viable. You just need to learn how to use it right.

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Can I do FW without premaritally losing access to other faction space?


Yes. but flying in highsec during your FW time is something you need to avoid. ( use an alt for logistic ).

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Any really good guides/video on solo pvp? I can't tell which are outdated and there seems to be disagreement on whether a frigate viable or not.


The ones I have are in french, sorry ^^

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Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#3 - 2014-07-14 15:59:15 UTC
Solo is definitely viable, but it is playing eve on hardmode so you will fail alot.

Some great stuff on EVE Is Easy: https://www.youtube.com/user/eveiseasy

otherwise take a look at the "My EVE" section of theeve forums. Plenty of solo videos there.

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Terhiss
United Mining and Hauling Inc
The Initiative.
#4 - 2014-07-14 22:46:34 UTC
personally i believe you have to be analytical. Even in the learning process. Especially in the learning process.

It involves starting by learning a certain category of ships, study their Hull Bonuses, understand them, and start thinking what you can do with them. Successively build from there on what targets you may engage.

Solo PvP in Eve is about having metabolised perfectly ships and mechanics, its about processing quickly the environment that comes at you and applying what you know towards making the decision: to engage or not to engage.

"Know your fits. Choose you fights." that one you'll hear a lot from other PvPers.
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2014-07-15 04:58:48 UTC
Of course solo pvp is viable. Just make sure you bring your scouting alt, your scanning alt, your booster alt, and have the ISKflow to fly pimpfit faction frigates with faction implant sets.
infra52x
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-07-15 07:51:14 UTC
Thorr VonAsgard wrote:
Solo pvp is always viable but you need experience.

You will die horribly again and again and again before knowing what to do exactly at the right time.

But one you get it, you will enjoy every fights you'll make.

A mate did 1 vs 40 by killing 20 to 30 of the ennemy fleet.
Check his kb : https://zkillboard.com/character/226755617/

Quote:

Is roaming in a merlin or variant viable? If so any resources on doing this? My tengu is too expensive to experiment.


Yes. Almost every ship is viable. You just need to learn how to use it right.

Quote:
Can I do FW without premaritally losing access to other faction space?


Yes. but flying in highsec during your FW time is something you need to avoid. ( use an alt for logistic ).

Quote:
Any really good guides/video on solo pvp? I can't tell which are outdated and there seems to be disagreement on whether a frigate viable or not.


The ones I have are in french, sorry ^^



Using an overpriced Worm+links doesn't qualify as solo, not to mention, the drone exploit that more than likely came into play right around the time of the kills you linked.
Doctor Knuckles
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2014-07-15 08:35:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Doctor Knuckles
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Of course solo pvp is viable. Just make sure you bring your scouting alt, your scanning alt, your booster alt, and have the ISKflow to fly pimpfit faction frigates with faction implant sets.



I wish people would stop posting this kind of bullcrap, trying to scare people away from something they most likely didn't even seriously tried their hand at, low sec soloing.

I started soloing with 1.5 Millions SPs (of which a bunch in exploration skills) in a meta fit frig, with no pvp experience at all barring a couple times i been the suicide tackle in random situation i didnt understand at all. I just fitted a bunch of scram kite incursus and went for it, trying to prove my mettle to join the corp i'm in now. Two days in i got my first kill, against a guy with a pretty decent experience and an 80% win loss ratio in a t2 fit kestrel.

I never stopped soloing since, i kill more than i go blap, i kill ships from superior classes in t1 frigs, i get in fights outnumbered, i get blobbed and i come back, i explode and i come back, i got no links, no scouting alt, no expensive implant sets, no pills cause i can't afford them, my only income comes from loot, ransoms, and LP exchange from FW for the plexes i run while looking for fights.

"True" solo is perfectly viable. Is it hard? Yeah. Is it profitable? Hardly so. Is it exciting? **** yeah it is.

@ OP. Your sec status will most likely plummet, the majority of fights will come from neutrals, especially after the recent changes to FW plexes
Lamda Korr
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-07-15 17:16:10 UTC
Most of my skills are in missiles and scanning but I have a lot of core skills at level 5. I'm 5 days away from fitting this solo merlin fit from eve university http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Merlin.

Based on the feedback it looks like I should stick with this merlin fit until I understand it inside and out. Then I'll modify it for different targets/tactics... Once I'm comfortable I could move up to different ships. I can fly a nicely fit Drake and Tengu but I'm shooting for cheaper until I know what I'm doing.

Stitch Kaneland
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#9 - 2014-07-15 18:01:24 UTC
Solo pvp is quite viable. Granted, if youre working alone, profits will not be amazing, however, if you get into fw, LP payouts can pay for your sub. I started in null, and null sec pvp and anoms suck in general to make isk and have fun. Plus i rarely wanted to run anoms because they were so mind numbingly boring. So more often than not i was playing skill queue online. Finally, once i got fed up with null stagnation i figured id try FW. Havent looked back since. Im a 3-4year player and im still having a ball with t1 frigs and dessies. Im able to invest a small amount and get quite a bit of bang for the buck. If i have some built up lp i may splurge on a navy BS to spice up my solo roam from time to time. Thats my preference though.

Youre going to die, often, normally from blobs or ecm. If your fits are well sorted and you have a good foundation on gameplay mechanics, you will be ahead of most of your opponents. I mean i kill people in shitfit AF frigs/inties fairly regularly in my t1 ships. So not everyone is pro.
Thanatos Marathon
Moira.
#10 - 2014-07-15 18:08:47 UTC
If you ever want to chat solo pew feel free to hang in our public channel.
Stitch Kaneland
The Tuskers
The Tuskers Co.
#11 - 2014-07-15 18:25:15 UTC
One thing i forgot to mention. Look up eve pvp videos on youtube. You can learn a lot watching good solo pvpers. Might save you a ship or 2.
Plato Forko
123 Fake Street
#12 - 2014-07-15 18:46:23 UTC
that eve uni fit sucks. if you're gonna roll like that it's better to swap the point for a second web, overheat with void ammo and hope you melt your target before they notice they can just warp off. single-web blaster merlin is just half-assed, it's one of the slowest frigs in the game and has no range bonus, so pretty much the only kills you'll be able to get from it are MWD-fit ships unfortunate enough to land within tackle range of you.

rocket hulls are better for starting solo, since they do away with having to pay attention to transversal (tracking) or range (CN ammo usually hits to whatever range you need) you can focus more on range control and mitigating incoming DPS.

drake and tengu are not very successful solo hulls since HAM/HML bonuses don't help. if you're running around solo in anything smaller than a battleship, your primary enemy will be roaming gang of frigs or dessies and neither HAMs nor HMLs will hurt them enough to make a difference. after all, it's easy for a cruiser set up to counter smaller ships to run from another cruiser, but it's hard for a cruiser set up to counter other cruisers to run from a gang of smaller ships.


flakeys
Doomheim
#13 - 2014-07-15 19:18:46 UTC  |  Edited by: flakeys
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Of course solo pvp is viable. Just make sure you bring your scouting alt, your scanning alt, your booster alt, and have the ISKflow to fly pimpfit faction frigates with faction implant sets.


Yup , totally no solo frigfighters out there who are not using 5 alts in the process Roll . It's not because a lot of people are using boosteralts because '' OMG bad k/d ratio '' that it is not viable to solo pvp and especially if we're talking flying frigs in fw space , if he is even a bit decent in the marketing he does he can make a ton of losses each day without a care.Allthough the guy who posted about his ''look at my friend owning in solo pvp did not mention that that friend VERRY obviously is using links''.


Solo frigpvp is there and it's fun , just expect the opponents to try and outgun you in the biggest way they and expect to make loss after loss after loss.But who cares as long as the wallet can handle it and you're having fun ...
Try and keep your market acitivities going and to get better at that part too , don't forget that your marketeering can pay for your pvp fun.Be decent at playing te markets and ll your losses can be laughed away.

Once you find a decent frigfit do stick with it for a longer period , it is easier to learn that way what you did wrong.With frigs the most important thing is knowing ranges and how to dictate them.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Plato Forko
123 Fake Street
#14 - 2014-07-15 19:35:37 UTC
the whining about boosted soloing is so disproportionate to the actual boosted soloing that solo pilots need to step it up and use more links to bridge the gap Twisted
flakeys
Doomheim
#15 - 2014-07-15 19:46:23 UTC
Plato Forko wrote:
the whining about boosted soloing is so disproportionate to the actual boosted soloing that solo pilots need to step it up and use more links to bridge the gap Twisted



I've been dabbling in fw for the past months and of the hundreds of fights i had i only encountered a boosted opponent twice Blink

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.

Jimmy O'Shanty
The Westies
#16 - 2014-07-16 20:08:10 UTC
Go to any FW system with frigate of your choice and enter a novice plex. It'll be on your overview if there is one in system. Turn your d-scan range all the way down and sit in plex checking d-scan frequently. You'll be able to see what type of frigate is on the gate about to enter your plex. (If there's more than one on d-scan they're almost certainly together.) When it enters, begin the forbidden dance. It's a great way to get solo fights.

Dictate range and happy hunting! o7

Oh and win or lose, give a GF in local.

Oh and don't engage first with a frigate on gates or outside stations. You will die to gate/station guns as well as your target.

Oh and you will be gate camped on occasion just trying to get around low. It happens.



SeaSaw
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2014-07-17 13:33:02 UTC  |  Edited by: SeaSaw
Good OP;

The best way to start to learn PvP is with a 3 stabbed rifter or merlin. You will survive the gate camps, which means you can get to FW space with a ship to lose. Don't try to fight at first, just get away, again and again. You will see which ships are fast, which ones carry drones, which ones will kite you--all in the same cheap ship. You will also see which parts of space have the guys with the off grid boosters (seiside area for instance) and you will learn why its hard to win PvP without two accounts.

Eveyone hates people who fly with stabs, so you get lots of frustrated tears right off. The snarky insults are their own reward.

your humble servent
SeaSaw
Vartan Sarkisian
Tannhauser C-Beam
#18 - 2014-07-17 16:57:44 UTC
Doctor Knuckles wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Of course solo pvp is viable. Just make sure you bring your scouting alt, your scanning alt, your booster alt, and have the ISKflow to fly pimpfit faction frigates with faction implant sets.



I wish people would stop posting this kind of bullcrap, trying to scare people away from something they most likely didn't even seriously tried their hand at, low sec soloing.

I started soloing with 1.5 Millions SPs (of which a bunch in exploration skills) in a meta fit frig, with no pvp experience at all barring a couple times i been the suicide tackle in random situation i didnt understand at all. I just fitted a bunch of scram kite incursus and went for it, trying to prove my mettle to join the corp i'm in now. Two days in i got my first kill, against a guy with a pretty decent experience and an 80% win loss ratio in a t2 fit kestrel.

I never stopped soloing since, i kill more than i go blap, i kill ships from superior classes in t1 frigs, i get in fights outnumbered, i get blobbed and i come back, i explode and i come back, i got no links, no scouting alt, no expensive implant sets, no pills cause i can't afford them, my only income comes from loot, ransoms, and LP exchange from FW for the plexes i run while looking for fights.

"True" solo is perfectly viable. Is it hard? Yeah. Is it profitable? Hardly so. Is it exciting? **** yeah it is.

@ OP. Your sec status will most likely plummet, the majority of fights will come from neutrals, especially after the recent changes to FW plexes


I wish more people would solo like this, it is something I've been trying to get into, getting blobbed is just boring.
Harrison Tato
Yamato Holdings
#19 - 2014-07-18 07:02:52 UTC
Yes it is.
Luceno zu'Eldrazi
Doomheim
#20 - 2014-07-18 11:37:51 UTC
Pick a few frigates you enjoy flying, buy a handful of each, fit them with non-blingy mods, and go get kersploded. You will die A LOT so I would avoid faction and T2 hulls unless you have a big wallet.
Try to think about the strengths and weaknesses of your ship and hunt down targets based on that information.
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