EVE General Discussion

**** "content"

For the sake of clearing up any confusion, how about we define things as follows:

Game content - anything ccp creates
Player driven content - any activity created by players

Yes yes yes and with so much choice surely people would never feel starved for content would they? That was not the point of my post. I am more trying to get to the bottom of why some stuff is considered AFK material and why some is seen as being the king pin on which the rest of eve evolves.

Obviously smashing other people's stuff is very important but as we see it's nit strictly viewed as 'content' by everyone is it?

I think content should be defined as "the opportunity or enablment of activity" within the game and that things like corp awoxing and mittens super capital arms race are examples of the loss of content because they're removing the reasons to try and break in to sov/recruit newbies. Or whatever your flavour of generally speaking 'people barrier' you care to think of. If there is an activity which through being practiced actively erodes the number of people involved in another activity then you can pretty safely say content is being lost and not generated.

You don't even understand the meaning of the word "definition" ...

Content in EVE, if we disregard what the lesser people believe is content,
is nothing more than the natural flow i which the universe progresses.
It's the same IRL. The reason why you need a definition most probably
is because you don't get "life".

Life, as EVE, is full of content. As soon as you go outdoors, there are hundreds
of things that could happen to you in what way ever.

The issue though is that you choose not to. People, carebears I guess,
mostly only care about themselves. In bigger cities people don't even
greet each other anymore, denying themselves lots of content.


So, content in EVE is every form of interaction between humans.
If you consider shooting NPCs as content or doing whatever that does not
somehow connect with other humans ... well ... I guess that works for
the usual definition when it comes to all the lesser games out there.

In EVE though, content has nothing to do with NPCs. That's just there
so the lesser people drop money into the game and the actual players have targets.

So when you see me in Hek, sitting flashy red in a pod ... i provide content.
When you see me sportcommentating in local about the idiots
who slowboat 300km towards me ... i provide content.
When people react to it, I have delivered.

Local enjoys me. It's a lot of fun satisfIng so many at once.
And I am really good at it! I love doing it all day and sometimes
people even beg me to do it.

They need their "content" soooo badly ...
... and when they see me they get all excited ...
... because I can satisfy them sooooo well ...
... and they always smile happily when I'm done with them! ;)


Next time you roll your eyes annoyed about what I said,
or start hating me for what I did ... remember this post. (:


See.... the definition of content... is you, me, everyone.

When someone says “CCP aren't adding any new content”, what they mean is “I am assuming that EVE works like your average themepark/content-consumption game where devs create new ‘content’ to be ground until the next batch makes it obsolete, and I have forgotten to look at the 40 bajillion other ways content can be created… and CCP hasn't added any new planned-obsolesence grind for me”.

LFG is something CCP expermented with in incursions. Was it successful? Is it content as Tippia defines in the themepark manner and if so should there be more or less of it? Given that some of it is afk by this point too..

If interactions are not interactions but instead, content. Then what do you call stuff like ships and game mechanics that were traditionally considered game content?

Content: the things that are held or included in something

Good question!
I call them tools to create content!

The way lesser games make people think about content doesn't apply to EVE at all.

Incursions are another example of CCP thinking one thing and reality thinking another.

The whole idea was that an incursion would disrupt a constellation and 'the people who live there' would band together, form up a fleet and go kick them out. That's why Incursion constellation chat exists. it was supposed to be a way for 'pick up groups' to come together. across EVE space (thus the low sec and null incursions)

In standard EVE fashion, the community and reality said screw that.

Null incursions (rather than being beacons of conflcit and profit) go almost completely unused except when they fall on someone's staging area, low sec incursions are little done (unless locked down and farmed by some usually null sec living alliance) and high sec incursions spawned these 'semi-professional farming communities' that know the mechanics of incursions so well that it's damn hard to not fall asleep in a fleet sometimes, it's so damn safe and boring despite the 'improved AI'. The existence of the incursion communities smoother almost any hope of truly random local PUGs forming.

At the end of the day, incursions only generate content for a very few PVErs and an even smaller number of gankers that pray on them. What was supposed to be this great thing turn into another borefest farming opportunity.