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The definition of eve content
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Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#1 - 2014-07-15 12:05:00 UTC
Seems to be some confusion as to what "content" eve actually has.

So list it.

[*] building space ships.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#2 - 2014-07-15 12:06:14 UTC
Destroying spaceships.

Selling stuff to other people.

Stealing stuff from other people.

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#3 - 2014-07-15 12:07:04 UTC
Anything that generates something people talk/write about is imo content.

/c

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Tao Dolcino
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-07-15 12:08:55 UTC
Classical mmo definition :
PvE, PvP, gathering ressources, crafting, questing, grouping, socializing, dramas Blink
Nami Kumamato
Perkone
Caldari State
#5 - 2014-07-15 12:12:07 UTC
"War. War never changes.

[...]Too many humans, not enough space or resources to go around. The details are trivial and pointless, the reasons, as always, purely human ones.[...]"

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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#6 - 2014-07-15 12:12:10 UTC
Eh? There is?

Ok then… everything on this list, and every tool, item, and mechanic that allows for those activities. And then, of course, there's all the meta-game content that exists outside of the game.
Quinn Corvez
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2014-07-15 12:12:12 UTC
Content is the stuff the developer puts into the game that the players can interact with.

Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#8 - 2014-07-15 12:13:38 UTC
Chribba wrote:
Anything that generates something people talk/write about is imo content.

/c


I was thinking more specifically about activities people do where "content creators" can be found.
Quinn Corvez
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2014-07-15 12:16:47 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Chribba wrote:
Anything that generates something people talk/write about is imo content.

/c


I was thinking more specifically about activities people do where "content creators" can be found.


Other than third party development and out of game websites, players do not create content, they interact with the content provided by the developer.
Caleb Seremshur
Bloodhorn
Patchwork Freelancers
#10 - 2014-07-15 12:17:02 UTC
Quinn Corvez wrote:
Content is the stuff the developer puts into the game that the players can interact with.



So you don't consider ganking afk miners to be content?

Guess it depends on whether you consider the relationship between ganked and ganker to be symptomatic of some bigger issue - like say for example that mining is too easy in highsec or that maybe asteroid belts should be swapped for mining sigs?
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#11 - 2014-07-15 12:17:25 UTC
Content = something to do.

Incursions
Wormholes
Nullsec Ratting
PvP
Faction Warfare Missions/Plexing
Exploration
Highsec Missions
Level 5 Missions
Nullsec Sovereignty

Contrary to the popular belief by this community, content is only generated by CCP. You interacting with one of these systems and making a youtube video or article headline isn't you creating content, it's you using CCP's content.

Not today spaghetti.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#12 - 2014-07-15 12:18:54 UTC
Sexy Cakes wrote:
Content = something to do.

Incursions
Wormholes
Nullsec Ratting
PvP
Faction Warfare Missions/Plexing
Exploration
Highsec Missions
Level 5 Missions
Nullsec Sovereignty

Contrary to the popular belief by this community, content is only generated by CCP. You interacting with one of these systems and making a youtube video or article headline isn't you creating content, it's you using CCP's content.


Lol. They have this thing now, it's called a sandbox game.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Quinn Corvez
Perkone
Caldari State
#13 - 2014-07-15 12:21:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Quinn Corvez
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Quinn Corvez wrote:
Content is the stuff the developer puts into the game that the players can interact with.



So you don't consider ganking afk miners to be content?

Guess it depends on whether you consider the relationship between ganked and ganker to be symptomatic of some bigger issue - like say for example that mining is too easy in highsec or that maybe asteroid belts should be swapped for mining sigs?


I don't think there is a proper definition for "game content" but i look at it like this...

If someone gives me rubik's cube, that would be the content. If I solve the cube, that is simply me interacting with that content. I'm not creating anything, i'm just operating within the rules of the content provided.
Eve Content
Doomheim
#14 - 2014-07-15 12:22:01 UTC
Me. I'm Eve Content.

The very definition of it. So is everyone else. It's what each of us do, no matter what it is, that makes eve content.
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
#15 - 2014-07-15 12:23:41 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

Lol. They have this thing now, it's called a sandbox game.


Like I said contrary to this community's popular belief. CCP has sold this sandbox game concept to you long and hard. You interact with their content. You don't create content.

Not today spaghetti.
Ocih
Space Mermaids
#16 - 2014-07-15 12:38:53 UTC
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#17 - 2014-07-15 12:38:56 UTC
Sexy Cakes wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

Lol. They have this thing now, it's called a sandbox game.


Like I said contrary to this community's popular belief. CCP has sold this sandbox game concept to you long and hard. You interact with their content. You don't create content.

While I can understand where your point comes from I would suggest that there is a lot more content which occurs though the game which is entirely player created. Most of it would probably be social interactions between players - they have interacted with CCP's content and then they interact with each other.
Corporations are enabled by CCP's content but they are not dependent on it.
Huge Nullsec military campaigns may result in an interaction with CCP's content but the speeches, the propaganda, the rabble rousing which precedes that is not dependent on it... The various Goonswarm posters ("The war is over..." and so forth) are all content entirely created by players rather than CCP.

To push the Rubix cube analogy:
The Rubix cube is content.
You solving the rubix cube is interaction with content but not content in and of itself.
You writing a poem about solving the rubix cube results is a poem which is content.
Mithandra
B.O.P Supplication For Glorious
Dracarys.
#18 - 2014-07-15 12:40:54 UTC
Seriously?

OK

PvP
Pve
Blob warfare
gate camping
roaming
hisec ganking
wormholes
FW
suicide ganking
building ships
blowing ships up
PI
gas harvesting
Mining
escalations
Lowsec
Piracy
wormholes
Industry
Market manipulation
Corps
Sov warfare
griefing
carebearing
isk making
isk losing
forum warfare
missions
whining about lack of content
Industrial espionage
scamming

and that's without really trying




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Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2014-07-15 12:41:38 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Seems to be some confusion as to what "content" eve actually has.

So list it.

  • building space ships.

    • Anything I can do in EVE with the tools given to me.

    Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!
    Caleb Seremshur
    Bloodhorn
    Patchwork Freelancers
    #20 - 2014-07-15 12:42:38 UTC
    Sexy Cakes wrote:
    Kaarous Aldurald wrote:

    Lol. They have this thing now, it's called a sandbox game.


    Like I said contrary to this community's popular belief. CCP has sold this sandbox game concept to you long and hard. You interact with their content. You don't create content.


    I think the point of eve is supposed to be about people acting out their whims in a simulation not of spaceships but of an extremely elaborate lord of flies island.

    Eve isn't so much a game as it is a psychological experiment. The "content creators" we back handedly compliment are the people who chose the pvp element of the game as their primary source of entertainment as this pvp outside of ship balancing has no programming overhead from CCP. Like giving 2 kids some sticks and then leaving them to their own devices without a doubt they will eventually start attacking each other.

    Defining content rigidly as an activity provided in a can by CCP is necessarily ahort sighted but not unfair either. And reading one of mittanis articles about super caps does nothing to stop it being true how he called stomping CVA as content but only out of the boredom of his populace.

    Perhaps mittens would feel more envigorated by expelling one of his supercap coalition members 'just cause' and stirring the pot a little bit. The fact that this new 3rd party would need to scramble for help from someone would be content enough. Provided they don't just join N3 of course.
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