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Why you shouldn't pay for eve

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Sodabro
Doomheim
#21 - 2014-07-15 10:40:41 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
The short version: I got banned for botting & CCP ignored me, don't give them money anymore.

this world needs more tl;dr heroes like this guy here.
Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#22 - 2014-07-15 10:47:29 UTC
I actually expected to be reading a serious in-depth post as to why I shouldn't give CCP my money, I'm disappointed.

Although, it seems that you kept on giving CCP money though since you're here with what I assume is a new account, since you got yours banned over a month ago meaning this isn't a trial account any more.

Best of luck clearing your name though, but I'm afraid the general consensus for this type of matters is that if you had to take it to the forum to complain, you most likely did use some type of unwanted software.

/c

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Anize Oramara
WarpTooZero
#23 - 2014-07-15 10:58:40 UTC
I'm a little confused. I just finished reading a thread where everyone complains ccp can't do anything right. now I'm reading a thread where everyone is saying ccp can do no wrong.

whats the definition of hypocrisy again?

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Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2014-07-15 11:04:41 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Aw man. I just bought new popcorn, and now I'll immediately run out.
And it was raining when I went to the store too. Cry

I have some here.

it's bacon-flavoured popcorn.

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Lachra
Lachra Corporation
#25 - 2014-07-15 11:07:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Lachra
God Arthie wrote:
Why you shouldn't pay for eve...


Question

On a side note, you definitely know when someone's a hardcore programmer when they even call their fictional space characters "God".
Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2014-07-15 11:09:46 UTC
Anize Oramara wrote:
I'm a little confused. I just finished reading a thread where everyone complains ccp can't do anything right. now I'm reading a thread where everyone is saying ccp can do no wrong.

whats the definition of hypocrisy again?
'backing the argument that has the highest entertainment value'

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Christina Project
Screaming Head in a Box.
#27 - 2014-07-15 11:09:59 UTC
Tippia wrote:
Aw man. I just bought new popcorn, and now I'll immediately run out.
And it was raining when I went to the store too. Cry
This made me laugh. xD
But not because of SchadenFreude. (:

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shimiku
Zircron Industries
#28 - 2014-07-15 11:12:22 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
You dont just get banned, ive never heard of anyone in any game get banned for legit playing, ccp know who bots and macros because therr is common things bots do


thats not entirely true i got banned once for paying my monthly fee to a corp

but got unbanned 2 days after
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#29 - 2014-07-15 11:17:16 UTC
Anize Oramara wrote:
I'm a little confused. I just finished reading a thread where everyone complains ccp can't do anything right. now I'm reading a thread where everyone is saying ccp can do no wrong.

whats the definition of hypocrisy again?

Were they the same people and did they actually say any of that?
What's the definition of strawman again?

Oh, and OP: why shouldn't I pay for EVE just because you were banned? There's a serious disconnect between subjects here.
Bloody Slave
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#30 - 2014-07-15 11:18:42 UTC
Anize Oramara wrote:
I'm a little confused. I just finished reading a thread where everyone complains ccp can't do anything right. now I'm reading a thread where everyone is saying ccp can do no wrong.

whats the definition of hypocrisy again?


People that think CCP can't do anything right -----> that way ----->

<----- this way <------- for people that think CCP can do no wrong....


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Mikael Menethil
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#31 - 2014-07-15 11:20:52 UTC
What do you mean "the ban was for macroing"? Could you elaborate?

If you were the one pushing the buttons, there should be no issue with macroing.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=117249#post117249
UltraSplash
Ntak Inc.
#32 - 2014-07-15 11:27:54 UTC
Eleanor Wish wrote:
You'd have better luck convincing everyone of your innocence if you just stuck with "My cat did it."


Poor kitty
God Arthie
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#33 - 2014-07-15 11:32:09 UTC
Mikael Menethil wrote:
What do you mean "the ban was for macroing"? Could you elaborate?

If you were the one pushing the buttons, there should be no issue with macroing.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=117249#post117249


Yes, all the time I've played I "pushed" the buttons by myself, not with automated programs.
One of my problems was getting banned(if CCP don't believe me and call me a liar, I'm partially ok with that) the other one is that support doesn't even read the ticket and post's generic answers after weeks of waiting.
Steve Celeste
Doomheim
#34 - 2014-07-15 11:35:38 UTC
Hey guys I am a programmer and have many software.
Antihrist Pripravnik
Cultural Enrichment and Synergy of Diversity
Stain Neurodiverse Democracy
#35 - 2014-07-15 11:37:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Antihrist Pripravnik
God Arthie wrote:
Hello.

First of all I'd like to tell that this post follows all the rules described in "Forum rules" and it is not intended to create any discussion about my ban's neither this post will include "private communications" (but if you ever receive them you will clearly understand how CCP works and how much it cares about their paying costumers).


Actually, you might be a bit wrong there... Here, let me help you out:

Quote:
3. Ranting is prohibited.

A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents.


Quote:
10. Discussion of warnings and bans is prohibited.

Such matters shall remain private between CCP and the involved user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through email or private messaging. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including petition responses and emails) received from any of the aforementioned parties.


Quote:
22. Post constructively.

Negative feedback can be very useful to further improve EVE Online provided that it is presented in a civil and factual manner. All users are encouraged to honestly express their feelings regarding EVE Online and how it can be improved. Posts that are non-constructive, insulting or in breach of the rules will be deleted regardless of how valid the ideas behind them may be. Users are also reminded that posting with a lack of content also constitutes non-constructive posting.


with a hint of

Quote:
32. "Quitting" posts are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience channel.

CCP recognize that during the course of gameplay a lot of friendships are made between players and that sometimes if a player is taking a break or departing from the EVE universe that they would like to say goodbye on the forums. Posts of this nature are only permitted on the Out of Pod Experience forum, and must be civil and well worded.


Smile
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#36 - 2014-07-15 11:43:33 UTC
God Arthie wrote:
support doesn't even read the ticket and post's generic answers after weeks of waiting.


How do you know? Are you watching them do it with your botting software?

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Marc Durant
#37 - 2014-07-15 11:47:22 UTC
OP can always ask for a full and open investigation by a GM so we can verify his statements, generally that's a good way to clear any (unfounded) allegations.


Yes, yes I am. Thanks for noticing.

God Arthie
Lowlife.
Snuffed Out
#38 - 2014-07-15 11:48:27 UTC  |  Edited by: God Arthie
Antihrist Pripravnik wrote:
...

^-Sorry for not quoting totally.

3. I don't think that any of my posts are filled with anger, and if it looks like it than I'm sorry but that wasn't my intention. I've had a chance to talk with multiple eve support departments and the only one that I'm concerned about is the Eula one.
10. I wasn't really expecting so many trolls coming, and I wasn't expecting so much discussion about this, that's why i asked to close the discussion.
22. I think i've clarified myself and wasn't just randomly blaming CCP, i think my criticism is being done constructively(even if I didn't propose any solutions).
32. I'm still not Quitting Eve =) (unless CCP decides so).
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#39 - 2014-07-15 11:50:14 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Ezwal
God Arthie wrote:
Hope any GM reading this post reads it to the end and checks that all rules were followed.
I am not a GM, but then again, it's not the GM's that moderate the EvE forum, ISD's CCL division does.
I read your post in full and as Captain of CCL I don't have to check the rules to see if you broke one or multiple of them, I know you did.

Thread locked.

The Rules:
10. Discussion of warnings and bans is prohibited.

Such matters shall remain private between CCP and the involved user. Questions or comments concerning warnings and bans will be conveyed through email or private messaging. CCP respect the right of our players to privacy and as such you are not permitted to publicize private correspondence (including petition responses and emails) received from any of the aforementioned parties.

ISD Ezwal Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

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