Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Why stop at EAS when we could have PDQ, RGB or maybe even SBZ?

WTF?

oooh those ships yeah, never even flown one and I pretty much have flown every class.

Sounds good actually, make it so!

I disagree, by your reasoning we should scrap the current EAS all together because the recons already do the same job?

There are EWAR bonused cloaky and non-cloaky ships for cruisers (Recons), and so frigates should get the same treatment

No. By my reasoning there is a frigate platform for stealth and a frigate platform for ewar; to mix the two platforms together requires a larger platform known as a cruiser.

nope, still wrong.

its so simple to understand

the relation in frigates>cruisers>battleships has pretty much been that there are ship types of equal use in each tier.

recons are cruisers, EAS are frigates, (and Black Ops are Battleships - my argument with EAS applies equally with them as well)

recons have an established 2 ship mix, cloaky and non-cloaky. The cloaky ship often exchanges range of ewar effect for the ability to cloak

so, with the already established 2 ship mix of long range non-cloaky and short range cloaky, we can apply this to the EAS ships, (and Black Ops)

In my mind, there isnt an argument over whether these ships should or shouldnt exist, because they should, but on how we balance them into the game.

Supported.. and while at it.. lets add Black-Ops with capital torpedo launchers, a BS sized stealth bomber as mentined in other threads. Something that can suddenly pounce on an unsuspecting capital ship and pew pew it to shreds.

more consentual pvp ships please

Let's talk about the Hyena. It, like the other EAS, has a smaller lock range then it's T1 counterpart. You acknowledge this. It also has a signature radius that's too large for it to survive. I've tried armor tanking the thing. I've tried shield tanking it. It quite simply is too fat of a target to survive very long in combat. Someone looks at it and the hyena will die. The ship also skipped over the fun 5% velocity bonus that the Vigil gets.

As for it's bonuses: Web range - check. Target painter - sigh, check. Signature reduction bonus? Okay, for those that don't remember this bonus is a lesser version of the one that interceptors USED to get before the speed nerf. After the speed nerf it was clear that the bonus wasn't cutting it - it got changed to the current one of reducing the MWD sig bloom penalty. The Hyena, however, got overlooked. A lesser version today would be 10% reduction to the MWD sig bloom penalty per level.

The last bonus is a reduction to the cap penalty of using a MWD. I view this differently from the other bonuses because when you start to look at all of the EAF, you notice they have some kind of version of this cap bonus. The sentinel gets a 25% cap recharge bonus at lvl 5. The kitsune gets one in ADDITION to the reduced ECM cap need bonus. The Keres and Hyena get a reduced cap use bonus. This aspcect of the class is screaming out for a capacitor role bonus of some sort.

TL;DR

Sensible Hyena:
38m sig radius

Frigate Bonus:
5% velocity per level and 7.5% Target Painter effectiveness per level. (Similar to Vigil save for the better TP bonus)
EAS Bonus:
10% reduction in MWD signature radius penalty and 20% web range bonus per level

Role Bonus:
25% faster capacitor recharge.

i know that the current EAS ships need a boost as well, i just thought that we could use an extra ship type

So, you dont like the idea, give a reasonable reply about WHY