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Commander Askiras
Doomheim
#1 - 2014-07-14 21:32:34 UTC
For a golem what is best for missions, cruise or torps for lvl 4 missions, and if their is a fitting i can get please that would be AWESOME
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2014-07-14 21:34:32 UTC
WHY ARE YOU YELLING AT US?

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Spicules
Invention Services
#3 - 2014-07-14 23:12:39 UTC
Something like this works well. You can use torps for level 4 missions, but for the most part cruise missiles will perform better.

Highs:
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Tractor Beam or Salvager
Tractor Beam or Salvager
Tractor Beam or Salvager
Bastion Module I

Mids:
X-Large Shield Booster II or X-Large ACSB (or whatever you like)
Hardener (or MJD / MWD / AB)
Hardener
Hardener
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Lows:
Ballistic Control System II (faction if you can)
Ballistic Control System II (faction if you can)
Ballistic Control System II (faction if you can)
Ballistic Control System II

RIgs:
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

Hi.
Commander Askiras
Doomheim
#4 - 2014-07-14 23:46:35 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
WHY ARE YOU YELLING AT US?

IM SO SORRY
Commander Askiras
Doomheim
#5 - 2014-07-14 23:47:28 UTC
Spicules wrote:
Something like this works well. You can use torps for level 4 missions, but for the most part cruise missiles will perform better.

Highs:
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Tractor Beam or Salvager
Tractor Beam or Salvager
Tractor Beam or Salvager
Bastion Module I

Mids:
X-Large Shield Booster II or X-Large ACSB (or whatever you like)
Hardener (or MJD / MWD / AB)
Hardener
Hardener
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron

Lows:
Ballistic Control System II (faction if you can)
Ballistic Control System II (faction if you can)
Ballistic Control System II (faction if you can)
Ballistic Control System II

RIgs:
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

i will be doing lvl 4s, what should go for torps or cruise?
Goochan derp
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2014-07-15 00:12:13 UTC
id say some missions will be better for torps and some better for cruise. overall cruise is a better weapon system tho.
Spicules
Invention Services
#7 - 2014-07-15 00:29:46 UTC
Commander Askiras wrote:
Spicules wrote:
Something like this works well. You can use torps for level 4 missions, but for the most part cruise missiles will perform better.

i will be doing lvl 4s, what should go for torps or cruise?


I would go for cruise.

Hi.
Commander Askiras
Doomheim
#8 - 2014-07-15 00:44:41 UTC
ok thank you :)
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#9 - 2014-07-15 03:05:46 UTC
Rigs should be Flare and Rigor, not two Rigors.

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Commander Askiras
Doomheim
#10 - 2014-07-15 03:08:27 UTC
ok thanks for the help mate :)
Chris Winter
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#11 - 2014-07-15 03:14:21 UTC
Val'Dore wrote:
Rigs should be Flare and Rigor, not two Rigors.

This is incorrect. Because of the way the missile damage formula works, a T2 rigor is always better than a T2 flare and a T1 rigor is always better than a T1 flare. The only reason to use a flare rig is if you're using a three-rig ship and have already fit 2 T2 rigors but don't have the calibration left for another T2 rigor. In this case a T2 flare is better than a T1 rigor.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#12 - 2014-07-15 11:10:31 UTC
Chris Winter wrote:
Val'Dore wrote:
Rigs should be Flare and Rigor, not two Rigors.

This is incorrect. Because of the way the missile damage formula works, a T2 rigor is always better than a T2 flare and a T1 rigor is always better than a T1 flare. The only reason to use a flare rig is if you're using a three-rig ship and have already fit 2 T2 rigors but don't have the calibration left for another T2 rigor. In this case a T2 flare is better than a T1 rigor.

this is correct. it should also be noted that the third rigor is not much worse than a T2 flare while also much cheaper.

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Commander Askiras
Doomheim
#13 - 2014-07-15 11:36:57 UTC
Chris Winter wrote:
Val'Dore wrote:
Rigs should be Flare and Rigor, not two Rigors.

This is incorrect. Because of the way the missile damage formula works, a T2 rigor is always better than a T2 flare and a T1 rigor is always better than a T1 flare. The only reason to use a flare rig is if you're using a three-rig ship and have already fit 2 T2 rigors but don't have the calibration left for another T2 rigor. In this case a T2 flare is better than a T1 rigor.

So what rigs should in install
Marc Durant
#14 - 2014-07-15 13:32:46 UTC
Commander Askiras wrote:
Chris Winter wrote:
Val'Dore wrote:
Rigs should be Flare and Rigor, not two Rigors.

This is incorrect. Because of the way the missile damage formula works, a T2 rigor is always better than a T2 flare and a T1 rigor is always better than a T1 flare. The only reason to use a flare rig is if you're using a three-rig ship and have already fit 2 T2 rigors but don't have the calibration left for another T2 rigor. In this case a T2 flare is better than a T1 rigor.

So what rigs should in install


That depends on how many painters you're going to use per target and if you're going to use Fury ammo or not. If you'll use less painters and perhaps use fury you'll want 2 rigors. If you DO always use your painters then rigor+flare.

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Commander Askiras
Doomheim
#15 - 2014-07-15 13:42:09 UTC
Marc Durant wrote:
Commander Askiras wrote:
Chris Winter wrote:
Val'Dore wrote:
Rigs should be Flare and Rigor, not two Rigors.

This is incorrect. Because of the way the missile damage formula works, a T2 rigor is always better than a T2 flare and a T1 rigor is always better than a T1 flare. The only reason to use a flare rig is if you're using a three-rig ship and have already fit 2 T2 rigors but don't have the calibration left for another T2 rigor. In this case a T2 flare is better than a T1 rigor.

So what rigs should in install


That depends on how many painters you're going to use per target and if you're going to use Fury ammo or not. If you'll use less painters and perhaps use fury you'll want 2 rigors. If you DO always use your painters then rigor+flare.

I will be using 2 painters and cruise missiles