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A Tale of Internet Spaceships: A Video Documentary on EVE's Community

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Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#21 - 2014-07-13 03:29:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Vortexo VonBrenner
Ursula Thrace
Dreamland Augmented Consortium
#22 - 2014-07-13 14:25:26 UTC
i just finished watching it. overall, i thought it was pretty solid.

the only negative aspect was the sound recording - it was awful. they actually resorted to inserting english subtitles for people speaking english.
Remiel Pollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2014-07-13 17:11:20 UTC
Ursula Thrace wrote:
i just finished watching it. overall, i thought it was pretty solid.

the only negative aspect was the sound recording - it was awful. they actually resorted to inserting english subtitles for people speaking english.


They did pretty damn good with what they've had, actually, considering they only had one microphone for the interviewee, and none for the interviewer. Speaking of which, I've seen plenty of NatGeo documentaries that still apply subtitles for the English-speaking interviewers because they felt the answer wouldn't make sense if the viewer didn't know the question that was asked, or when the English speaker has an accent (doesn't even have to be much of one) etc. To call it awful is pretty harsh in that context.

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Matilda Cecilia Fock
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#24 - 2014-07-13 17:16:58 UTC
Ursula Thrace wrote:
i just finished watching it. overall, i thought it was pretty solid.

the only negative aspect was the sound recording - it was awful. they actually resorted to inserting english subtitles for people speaking english.


Seriously? Then I may look at it, I just started watching the documentary, didn't get sh-t of what the first guy was saying and figured I would wait for a subtitled version.

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Chapmonious Hunter
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2014-07-13 18:03:28 UTC
Watched this last night, that was awesome, it was making me plan my trip to fanfest 2015 Blink I knew incarna was bad (talking to friends about eve in the past) But I had no idea just how bad it truly was (ill hitting my one year anniversary of playing eve at the end of the month) the interviews were awesome, although you can tell it was done on a budget that isnt really a bad thing. I guess my only complaint was that they really didnt get into more player driven storylines like fountain, or B-R etc. It was almost like the documentary was for people who had never played eve before, but had heard about it, but was something veterans of 2+ years could look at and know exactly what they were talking about. Overall I give it a 9/10, shared it to my facebook wall so my friends who are always hounding me about what eve is like can watch it. Nicely done overall.
Ursula Thrace
Dreamland Augmented Consortium
#26 - 2014-07-13 21:41:39 UTC
Remiel Pollard wrote:
To call it awful is pretty harsh in that context.


i was speaking only about the quality of the sound. i thought the overall production level was high, but i was surprised they didn't care enough to rent or purchase some decent recording equipment.
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#27 - 2014-07-13 21:45:56 UTC
Xenuria wrote:
Seismic Stan wrote:
After :18 months: of production, the small team of Swedish media students who attended Fanfest 2013 have finally released their documentary, which focuses on the relationship between CCP and the EVE Online community in 'a tale of dedicated fans, consumer power, conflict and redemption.'

YouTube: A Tale of Internet Spaceships


I hope you enjoy it.


The Mittani Quoted me
"Social microcosm of a civilization"
and casually passed it off as how own original thought.

I enjoyed everything but the part where you cut out my interview in it's entirety and covered more than 50% of the documentary with a guy who paraphrased what I said and in some parts plagiarized me.


Apparently the known universe revolves around this guy but no-one realizes it Lol

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Gerald Sphinx
Marauding Dragons
#28 - 2014-07-13 22:01:47 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Really great work, but it bothers me that half of it is spend on Incarna.


It should never bother you at all. In fact, be grateful for it because it shall forever be used to remind CCP that they should never take anything for granted especially their own player base. I was there in 2011 when it all went down in Jita 4-4, when the Fearless/Greed is Good? leak emerged, when the annoyingly defensive dev blog about $1,000 jeans was posted by CCP, when people reported that parts of their hardware were burning out because of the extremely, and poorly, optimized Captain's Quarters they were forced to go into upon docking.

I found a Guinness Book of World Records for 2011 (Gamer's Edition) which featured CCP as breaking the world record of having the MOST NUMBER OF PLAYERS THREATENING TO WALK OUT. This is no joke. I read the book and saw it written there at a local Barns & Noble store back in 2012.

Here is a link to a Massively Article to back up what I said.
http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/02/15/achievement-unlocked-a-look-at-the-guinness-world-records-of-on/

Quote:

The world of MMOs, as we all know, is not always one of happiness and joy. Sometimes even our favorite MMOs will launch a patch or release a new feature that just pisses everyone off. No one knows this better than CCP, which faced an incredible amount of backlash in light of EVE Online's Incarna update. The update launched a fan reaction that would eventually come to be known as monoclegate (so named for a cosmetic in-game monocle that could be purchased for a whopping $60 US), during which 5,833 players claimed to be cancelling their subscriptions and leaving the game. Seeing as how the cancellations could have resulted in a loss of $87,203 US in subscription revenue, the folks at Guinness saw fit to claim this to be the largest threatened player walkout in an MMO.


Not exactly the kind of PR CCP was looking for, was it?
Klandi
Consortium of stella Technologies
#29 - 2014-07-13 22:38:15 UTC
I will agree here - a excellent documentary that accurately portrayed the story of Eve so far . The only issue was sound quality, but well done to the team - cracking job

I am aware of my own ignorance and have checked my emotional quotient - thanks for asking

Seismic Stan
Freebooted Junkworks
#30 - 2014-07-14 18:08:54 UTC
Thanks for all the positive comments, I'll make sure to pass them onto the team who are very happy to have passed 30,000 YouTube views in the first 48 hours. :)
KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#31 - 2014-07-14 21:26:19 UTC
I thought it was pretty well done. A few inaccuracies, but on the whole very solid. How did they miss out noting the significant financial contributions that EVE customers have made to RL disaster causes?

Find it hilarious that people don't understand that gaming is a hobby, and like any hobby it can sink significant time.

Don't know where they got the idea that we forgave CCP. It is very apparent that the "We won't listen, we'll see what they do" mindset is still firmly in place at CCP. Ships still sitting ready in Jita... and sub cancel button under the finger.
Seismic Stan
Freebooted Junkworks
#32 - 2014-07-15 15:03:07 UTC
I wrote a blogpost to provide some insight into the ATOIS team's journey. You can read the illustrated and linked version on my blog, but in case you were interested, here are the words:

Behind the Scenes of A Tale of Internet Spaceships

The indie documentary examining the MMO EVE Online that began in early 2013 as an ambitious but underfunded Indiegogo crowdfunded project was finally released over the weekend. The team of Swedish media students behind it are still reeling with surprise at gaining over 30,000 views in its first 48 hours.

Petter Mårtensson, Philip Raivander and Elin Thedin wanted to find an interesting take on the unique relationship between CCP and and the EVE playerbase during a visit to the 10th anniversary celebrations at Fanfest in Iceland last year. When the team interviewed folk about the so-called 'Summer of Rage', the topic invariably drew impassioned responses and opinion, moreso than any other subject - in no small part because events surrounding it had a more significant impact on CCP employees and players than any other event in EVE's history.

It was evident that it was a story that wanted to be told and, despite some recent negative comments regarding the the decision to focus on the events surrounding the Incarna release, I think it was entirely the right choice as The Tale to reflect the highs and lows of CCP's relationship with their Internet Spaceship community.

Supporting the ATOIS Team

Of course, I'm a bit biased given that I've been a quasi-team member throughout much of the production, although I've been clear in my mind that it was entirely their project. I was just grateful for the opportunity to help out.

My involvement has been an enjoyable, slow-burning experience which started some time before Fanfest 2013. It was an exciting and ambitious concept led by the three Swedes including my sometime fellow EVE player and journalist friend Petter Mårtensson.

Somehow, I became charged with bugging various Fanfest-bound EVE personalities until they agreed to be interviewed by the team and I recall Fanfest 2013 being an exhausting experience. The entire time in Reykjavik I rushed around like a man possessed trying to make things happen, not only for the ATOIS team, but also for another documentary team lead by Keza MacDonald (then of IGN, now Editor-in-Chief of Kotaku UK) and also fulfilling my obligations as a correspondent for GameSkinny. Somewhere in all that I was trying to be an enthusiastic EVE player and catch up with friends too.

With the prerequisite Fanfest hangover and 36 hours of footage in the can, I parted ways with the ATOIS team. I returned to the UK and they headed back to Sweden to embark on their mammoth task of reviewing footage and moulding a coherent story from the endless talking heads. From afar, I provided moral support and rough copy reviews as well as research and writing services as required. I wrote the narration ably delivered by CSICON podcasting mogul Breki Tomasson (who previously starred in an EVE audio drama I wrote a few years ago) and am particularly proud of the (admittedly slightly cheesy) ‘...like Wall Street, when Jita sneezes, all of New Eden catches a cold and when Jita burns, everyone feels the heat.’

An Ambitious Challenge

The original hope was to have the finalised film ready for an exclusive premiere at Fanfest 2014, however the team's ambition proved to be one that required countless man-hours which needed to be squeezed in around their study and work duties. It became clear that to do an hour-long film justice, the Fanfest deadline was going to have to slip.

Further challenges arose from the fact that the $3000 raised had meant that equipment sacrifices had to be made, especially with the echoing background acoustics of a space-nerd filled Harpa centre often polluting the interview audio.

But there were some great moments and it’s been killing me not being able to reveal them for so long; Mark ‘Seleene’ Heard’s tone-changing ‘giant mistake’ line, ‘Crazy Uncle Unifex’ Jon Lander’s stage dive, Alex ‘The Mittani’ Gianturco’s unsettling habit of looking down the barrel of the camera, the hilariously 80s A-Team CSM montage and many more.

Sweden Bound

However, the team persevered and on the 11th July 2014, they held their premiere in their home city of Malmö. I was fortunate enough to attend and unfortunate enough to have been press-ganged into their last-minute frantic preparations.

On the morning of the premiere, final touches were still being added to the film. I joined my host Petter on a cross-town trek to Philip's apartment where the glassy-eyed video editor had been working on the film through most of the night.

As Petter and Philip reviewed his latest amendments, it was amusing to note the familiarity and fondness with which they discussed their interviewees. 'Brendan [Drain of Massively] is a lovely guy, but his beard is a ***** to colour-balance,' he told me. Philip explained that he had spent so much time working with images of the featured individuals that he feels as if he knows them and he's worried that if he ever met them again he'd freak them out by being over-familiar whilst they wouldn't have a clue who he was.

The final cut seemed to take an age to render and compress, with hours of progress-bar watching leading me to make the unkind remark that it was starting to feel like EVE gameplay. Eventually we headed out to the venue of the premiere to set up.
Seismic Stan
Freebooted Junkworks
#33 - 2014-07-15 15:04:12 UTC
The Premiere

Things were going so well, all the technical hurdles seemed to have been anticipated and we were merrily decorating the STPLN auditorium as A Tale of Internet Spaceships played in the background in all its dress-rehearsal glory.

Suddenly, a minor technical hiccup interrupted our preparations and Petter rushed to the stage wing where the business end of the tech was set up and he leapt up to address the issue. Well he tried. With all the athleticism of a crooked coathanger, he caught his shin on the stage and went down with a crash, rendering his right arm unusable. The venue's first-aid box was appallingly under-equipped, so a quick trip to the local pharmacy later and we filled Petter with pain-killers and strapped the arm up (a trip to hospital later that weekend revealed a fracture just below the elbow).

But the show must go on.

As the clock ticked down, the audience started to arrive. Petter was distracted by pain and Philip was resolving the last-minute technical issues. With minutes to go and no film to play, further pressure was applied when we discovered the father of CCP's Senior Producer, Andie Nordgren, was in the gathering crowd, who were now taking their seats expectantly. Nerves mounted.

At 2 minutes past 8, just as I was considering jumping on the stage to perform some kind of impromptu comedy routine, things suddenly came together. Petter and Philip took to the stage for a brief introduction, then the lights were dimmed and the go button was pressed. We watched with bated breath to how the film would be received.

When the film was over and the audience launched into unprompted applause, we breathed a sigh of relief. Many had even laughed aloud at one interviewee's quip about French monarchs. They had enjoyed the fruits of our labour (or were being terribly polite) and there was cause for celebration. There was of course an after party, sadly CCP Seagull's Dad didn't stick around, but she has since assured me on Twitter that he and her brother enjoyed the film.

Epilogue

The next day, as I was flying home to the UK, Philip was working feverishly to release the film online while Petter was presumably laying around in pain.

Philip's humble expectations had been to get a some thumbs-up on YouTube and a few hundred views, but only two days later more than 30,000 people had seen and (mostly) enjoyed A Tale of Internet Spaceships. Comments across many sites have been fascinating to read, invoking a broad spectrum of opinion. You can't please all the people all the time, but I genuinely think the ATOIS team have every reason to be proud of their achievement in capturing a story which can serve as a cautionary tale and an industry fable for a long time to come. I'm personally very proud to have had the opportunity to assist three talented media students manage to make a pretty professional first-time documentary on a shoestring budget.

Now we just need to teach Petter how to use stairs.
Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#34 - 2014-07-15 18:42:35 UTC
"Crazy Uncle Unifex" lol - now that you mention it, he did seem to have a bit of a slightly mad uncle aura going on at times...

Probably safe to assume film students might learn a lot about that field making this. Good. It turned out well.





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