Warfare & Tactics

1. Very useful. Another body is fine too, if you're active and have the good attitude that you seem to have

2. Gal is warp disruption and sensor damping, which are both useful. But it doesn't make any difference except in dedicated ewar ships. Otherwise ECM (Caldari) is usually annoyingly effective

3. EAFs are great. Ewar t1 cruisers are even easier to get into and less squishy. A blackbird (Caldari) will always be welcome in cruiser gangs

4. T2 are better, but t1 works fine (both frigs and cruisers)

5. If you want to be active, you could easily lose dozens of ships per month. Consider joining Faction Warfare, you can make good ISK while pvp-ing

FIrst I would like to say thanks for the answers I've gotten so far. This was exactly the information and help I was looking for.

Caldari seems to be the way to go but this brings up some more questions.

1. Cruisers vs Frigs. Just a matter of personal preference or are they used in different manners by a competent FC?

2. Cruiser gangs. These were mentioned and I've seen them referenced in other threads. Are they used just because they're cheap and reasonably effective or is there some mechanics benefit that I don't know about? And will I get laughed at if I try to join one in a EAF?

Unless its a fleet with lots of remote repair, then no no one will laugh at you for using an EAF as long as you use it wisely. Gallente EAF is among the most powerful multipliers you can bring in a fleet without spending much. Most fleets are cruiser sized and below because of mobility. A fleet with battleships cannot run away if they are faced by a superior force, so they are used much more carefully.

If you want to learn pvp and have a great time - get into wh. FW is fun but mosty (mostly) one dimensional. I mean mostly frigate fights on the fw anom gates. They are great fun, but that is pretty much all there is to FW. WH has more variety and there is so much more to learn there. You just can't get the same feel for what a pair of curse do in FW. It's just not something you run into in FW space. FW is a great kiddie pool to get your feet wet and learn frigatry, but there is only so much to learn and do there. Keep an open mind and realize there is more to eve pvp than the 'go FW' horn that is continuously blown in this forum.

Frigates are great fun, but they are only one class of ships. FW is primarily frigate on frigate. If you want it all, then you have to look elsewhere.

Pretty sure WH need a much higher skill and SP investment. Also, ISK wallet for expensive ships.

EWAR is probably one of the best things you can have in a fleet, especially when it is coordinated properly and used in the best ways possible

Neutralizers shut ships down if nothing can feed them cap, and that means death. Many ships such as the geddon nuet just fine at T1, but a curse is something truly spectacular.

Jamming causes more tears than freighter ganking and can turn the tide if you successfully jam either their big DPS ships or their logistics. For jams T2 ships are a MUST otherwise you'll die too quickly or wont have strong enough jams.

Dampeners are amazing for brining logi closer to the fight and in range of your DPS ships as well as handling snipers and kiters. plus the gallente T2 arazu / lachesis can tackle at long range too so it makes them indispensable in a fight.

Target painters are death to frigates and make some cruisers melt like theyre battleships

and Webs are just a must have, rapier ftw

E-War is very good if well applied,this however means that you might need some training to use it really in a proper way.
If you want to go for Solo-PVP then the Amarr line is best and most powerful. Minmatar line works only good against frigates. Haven't seen Gallente line for Solo so far and Caldari simply lacks the DPS.

a single EWAR ship can turn small-gang engagements into an easy win, for 20+ fleets you generally won't make much of a difference without a few other EWAR pilots on grid. That's not to say there aren't special circumstances.



Gallente EWAR is great but just as niche as Amarr, Caldari and Minmatar EWAR. You have to tailor your choice to the fleet's strategy.



EAFs are worth the price but they're pretty much as soft as the T1 variants so best to save those for small-gang engagements where your fleetmates might care more about not letting you get blapped. In general, T2 EWAR ships are huge force multipliers for small-gang fleets because they add a juicy special sauce bonus on top of the bonus they share with the T1 variants. For example, Gallente T1 and T2 EWAR can damp, but only the T2 variants have extended point range. All of this applies to EWAR cruisers too.

In many cases, the mobility + scan res of a frigate will be more beneficial than the extra modules and EHP of a cruiser. For example, if the opposing fleet has a Blackbird on field and you're in a Maulus, you can take the Blackbird out of the fight by getting lock first and neutralizing his ability to lock with range damps.

In general, if you know there will be other EWAR in a cruiser fleet bring a cruiser, frig/dessie fleets don't often have EWAR so if you bring one it might as well be T1 you'll be primaried either way.



As mentioned, the T2 ships get an extra bonus that can make all the difference if you're leading a small gang or your FC is counting on those special bonuses to make the most of the fleet composition.



Start cheap, keep a good stock of fitted frigates in hangar for all types of fights. Forget thinking about ships as special, they're just tools and sometimes a 2m ISK derptron is a better tool for the job than a 200m ISK EWAR cruiser would be.

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Basic INFO about ewar

Damps - rarely used without scripts.
Range script - great against kiting ships or logistics that are far from their friends. Also great to land on enemy EWAR support ships to deny their usefulness.
Scan res script - Useful for larger gang fights were logistics have to lock friendlies up. This vastly increases their lock time and allows your dps to drop targets before reps land. Use this when your logistics are amongst their friends.

ECM - multiple racial choice or multi-spectral
If possible you should fit for your assumed targets, rarely is multi-spec a valid useful choice. You should be looking at enemy logistics as primary targets or listen to what your FC or support FC wants dealt with. As an example, it may be worth more for a griffin pilot to clear enemy ewar support if they are seen to be very effective (example small gang fight where tracking disrupter ships are present against gunnery based gang).

Target painters - Very clear role
Not really ewar to be honest. What this does in a nutshell is increase effective damage that can be applied to the target its applied to. It lowers chance to miss for guns and increases applied damage for missiles. Bare in mind the effect is only percentage based so you'll usually only fit them if the person fitting the doctrine your in has done the maths to find them worthwhile over something else.

Webs - Simple role, slow ships down enough to be caught/apply dps. be aware that without a scram applied some mwd ships can still shift it even reduced by 60% speed when only 1 web present.

Warp disrupter - Stop ships warping away unless it has a warp strength higher than the amount of warp disrupters applied to it.

Warp scrambler - same as above but counts with improved warp strength (2), shorter range and shuts down microwarpdrives and micro jumpdrives.

Tracking disrupter - can be scripted and is rarely unscripted.
Optimal range disruption script - is VERY useful against lasers as lasers range is often in their optimal. It's also useful against some railgun fits although certain ships bonus for falloff for hybrids so be aware of the ship you are targeting to work out how many need to be applied or if it's useful at all.
Tracking disruption script - Slows the speed a turret can track you. i shall boil the concept down to the faster you move across a the more likely you are to have it miss you. tracking disrupters slow the chance of the turret tracking you as you move across it obliquely. This is a very useful ewar to have against anythign with guns but again, be aware its a %based penalty so if the turret has great tracking then you need to know it's still going to do something before you choose the amount to apply.

Energy neuts - remove cap from the enemy.
This will cost you a lot of cap too but you will remove more per cycle than it costs for you to activate it. This ewar is often found on many ships with spare high slots as an aux defence/offence system. When in great numbers or on ships bonussed for it you can shut ships down completely with only missiles/guns and drones able to fire. All active mods will shut down without cap so anything with active reps will die much faster with neuts applied to it.

This is all very basic info that all vets will know but I hope it helps you and some new to ewar.

E war is incredibly useful.

You want a celestis.

You will be primaried.