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[Proposal] Leadership Skills Revamped for Newer Players
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Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#21 - 2014-07-09 17:58:35 UTC
Daoden wrote:
The bonus of the "long" train is that it empowers your FLEET. Not just you. You have any idea how long it took me to get all skills to V, including command ship on my main guy. It was a CHOICE for me to take the time to train those skills which allows a lot of other people to NOT have to train those skills. Boost skills are a VERY specialized branch to go down and because of that it is not required for everyone in game to train them. Leadership 5 for a majority of ppl is high enough. 5 Wing command V players per fleet and 1 Fleet command V per fleet.
Fleet boosting and warfare in general is not about 1 individual. If you choose to be a booster its YOUR choice and believe me your fleet mates will love you all the more for it even if you have to sacrifice training something else.

11 months including remap and +5 implants (if you talk all races). And yes.
Lady Rift
His Majesty's Privateers
#22 - 2014-07-09 18:57:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Lady Rift
Fer'isam K'ahn wrote:
Daoden wrote:
The bonus of the "long" train is that it empowers your FLEET. Not just you. You have any idea how long it took me to get all skills to V, including command ship on my main guy. It was a CHOICE for me to take the time to train those skills which allows a lot of other people to NOT have to train those skills. Boost skills are a VERY specialized branch to go down and because of that it is not required for everyone in game to train them. Leadership 5 for a majority of ppl is high enough. 5 Wing command V players per fleet and 1 Fleet command V per fleet.
Fleet boosting and warfare in general is not about 1 individual. If you choose to be a booster its YOUR choice and believe me your fleet mates will love you all the more for it even if you have to sacrifice training something else.

11 months including remap and +5 implants (if you talk all races). And yes.



good thing you cant use all those skills at once.

Also you are missing an entire branch of boosting skills there.
Kcolorr
Eighty Joule Brewery
Goonswarm Federation
#23 - 2014-07-10 04:53:03 UTC
Daoden wrote:
The bonus of the "long" train is that it empowers your FLEET. Not just you. You have any idea how long it took me to get all skills to V, including command ship on my main guy. It was a CHOICE for me to take the time to train those skills which allows a lot of other people to NOT have to train those skills. Boost skills are a VERY specialized branch to go down and because of that it is not required for everyone in game to train them. Leadership 5 for a majority of ppl is high enough. 5 Wing command V players per fleet and 1 Fleet command V per fleet.
Fleet boosting and warfare in general is not about 1 individual. If you choose to be a booster its YOUR choice and believe me your fleet mates will love you all the more for it even if you have to sacrifice training something else.


And my argument is not that the training time overall is too long, simply that you cannot really do anything until everything is at level 5. The proposed changes simply let a person boost a fleet with lesser boosts earlier while still retaining the same time and bonuses at all 5s.
Red Crown
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2014-07-13 02:16:12 UTC
As someone currently doing this grind, I fully support this idea. It'd really empower people to try their hand at FCing - having to get everything to IV instead of V means that you don't have to sink five months into a specific remap to even try it.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#25 - 2014-07-13 10:33:53 UTC
Kcolorr wrote:

And my argument is not that the training time overall is too long, simply that you cannot really do anything until everything is at level 5. The proposed changes simply let a person boost a fleet with lesser boosts earlier while still retaining the same time and bonuses at all 5s.

Except you can boost before level 5.
It's the same myth as you have to have all skills at 5 to be able to PvP, total rubbish.
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2014-07-13 11:20:50 UTC
Red Crown wrote:
As someone currently doing this grind, I fully support this idea. It'd really empower people to try their hand at FCing - having to get everything to IV instead of V means that you don't have to sink five months into a specific remap to even try it.


You can 'fc' a fleet without any boosting skills. Being a good fc is very different to having good boosting skills. I wouls suggst people lead fleets a lot whilst training the boosting skills up so that they can make best use of those skills once they have them...
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#27 - 2014-07-13 11:25:16 UTC
Red Crown wrote:
As someone currently doing this grind, I fully support this idea. It'd really empower people to try their hand at FCing - having to get everything to IV instead of V means that you don't have to sink five months into a specific remap to even try it.

Again, total misconception .. have you been reading the posts ?
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#28 - 2014-07-13 11:27:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Fer'isam K'ahn
lol, triple post - "we got ganked notification" Shocked
Fer'isam K'ahn
SAS Veterinarians
#29 - 2014-07-13 11:47:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Fer'isam K'ahn
lol, triple post - "we got ganked notification" Shocked
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