EVE General Discussion

I dunno how accurate that is. Imo it actually has nothing to do with development resources (as much as people liked to use that as an argument basis), and you'll pry that fact out of anti-WiS folks if you corner them in an argument and set them up with the right questions . One of the biggest gripes people had with avatar based gameplay is simply that EVE's initial equivalent was going to be functionless, pointless beyond avatar social interaction (which itself many EVE players found to be an uncomfortable prospect in their "big boys" game) - which is pretty much the same gripe people still have these days regarding anything avatar related so nothing's really changed in that regard. Although it's true that WiS's "mothballed/Cancelled" state has finally been accepted by all, so there's not much to fight about anymore really, regardless which side of the fence you're on.

But to add a little extra insight to Zimmy's question, this thread isn't really a representative of the community's attitude toward avatars because when you look back in time you'll see there's actually been a "Most beautiful/Handsome toon" thread right here in GD almost annually. This is just the latest Incarnation it seems.

Anyway, I won't derail this into another WiS debate.

In all this sea of beauty, let's not forget the "special" people in our community.

Folks like Andrew Jester.

He'd almost be hot if he wasn't such a ****.

<3

Are you sure the stars didn't collide into your face?

Well, may be a bit more complicated, but the point is that threads on the topic aren't allowed to live long. As for avatar enthusiasm, hey, I am one, I can't wait to have a reason to resub any of my accounts and use their AUR in a shopping frenzy. But the fact is that the new NES items are being traded in Jita at the astounding pace of four or five a day -that's how successful they are.

Avatars in EVE are a very complicated matter. We have the best characters in industry in a completely useless implementation, with neither plans nor means to put them to use, and yet CCP is paying big bucks to a MT expert in order to implement vanity items you can't show off and destructable virtual items paid for with real money. Ship paintjobs are a victory of the old guard on the MT guy and good business practices, and clothing items are a tiny market after all.

I am aware though that currently CCP are struggling for their life, so there is no point to bring the matter to attention. Avatars are a disaster, will remain a disaster for all of the current development plan and anyway CCP won't last long enough to fix them in some future plans.

Edit -

On second thoughts I'll retract my rambling as I don't wish to turn this into a WiS debate of some kind, as much as I'd love to trash you after posting that inaccurate, pessimistic diatribe.

“Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go.” shoo.

You still didn't answer the question as to why you're still here, if as you claim EVE is actually dying.

Other than to allude to the fact that you'll do something just because it's cheap.

Hey, it was a reasonable question, not an argument. You should relax a little, you'll live longer.

I'm just not used to people consciously jumping ONTO a sinking ship. Are you? I'd question whether or not it's really sinking in that case, especially when I can't see any leaks myself.

I figured you'd either enlighten me with an interesting answer, or avoid answering it all together which would leave me no other option but to assume you don't have much confidence in what's coming out of your own mouth, or fingers rather.

But yeah, anyway, back to the catwalk

I'll take catfights over catwalks any day.