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You are not so normal after all - a look at what makes you strange

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2014-07-12 17:30:42 UTC
We humans like to see ourselves as the medium point - the standard, and we judge everything else by its level of variance from ourselves. It makes sense to do so when one lacks an understanding of natural boundaries and standard arrangements. But through much scientific study, we have begun to better understand what normal really is and just how strange we really are. So I'd like to share with you a few of the things that makes you stand out from the norm like a sore thumb:

I'll start with some of the basic adaptations in humans, especially since I see many extraterrestrial people depicted in works of science fiction as being very human-like in ways that they shouldn't be. First-off, our eyes--human eyes are well adapted for spotting food sources and threats that are well camouflaged. We have an excellent ability to discern shapes and color patterns with the information gathered by our robust array of retinal cone cells, and a large and well-developed visual cortex allows us to interpret this data in order to see camouflaged creatures as distinctly separate from their backgrounds. We also have good depth perception and target-tracking ability. We can spot movement quickly and sharply from anywhere in our field of vision and once we focus both eyes on it, we can quickly discern its distance, position relative to other things, speed and heading--and then we can, in an instant, compute an optimal interception or evasion path which we can update on the fly as the target changes its movements. Our eyes are very well adapted for both hunting and fleeing, especially in colorful environments with chaotic patterns that would confuse other animals. These eyes have some drawbacks, too. We can't see around ourselves very well due to our use of both eyes pointing forward so both can focus on a single object. We also have adaptations to improve day vision at the cost of night vision. With eyes like these, we are relegated to being a diurnal species.

Now our eyes are well-focused and streamlined into a concrete role, but our teeth and jaws are all messed up from conflicting evolutionary pressures. Our base teeth design is focused on grinding and crushing harsh plant fibers, which requires tremendous jaw strength--a feat that conflicts with our skull shape. Our ancestors and most of our relatives have developed a makeshift solution: increasing the size of the sagittal crest to brace the skull against the pressure while also giving the muscles something to attach to. Unfortunately for us, however, our need for larger brains forced our sagittal crests to shrink, which prevented us from being able to chew a lot of those plants that our teeth are built for. The end result is that without the use of our intelligence, sociality, and tool skills all working in tandem, large groups working as a team to generate food, we would be unable to feed ourselves. For this reason, a lone human in a wild environment rich in human food still has a good chance of starving.

Now I could go on and on about our specific biological makeup, but lets move on to bigger things. For instance this planet we are on is far from being a normal planet. It is on the large end of rocky worlds; it is rare for a planet to be larger or more massive than Earth and have an atmosphere thin enough that it does not liquefy and flood the surface in an atmospheric ocean--ie. a gas giant. The smallest "gas giants" would be about the same size and mass as Earth. Yet our atmosphere is particularly thin for a planet with the kind of gravity and magnetic field we have. Earth's magnetic field is being replenished by its giant moon--large enough to be a large planet--which orbits so close to the surface it shreds rock and warps that surface greatly with its immense tidal forces. This likely is very good for us. As we see with Venus and Mars, not having a giant moon to keep the mantle warm, it'll freeze after a few billion years. Venus and Mars may once have been temperate worlds with liquid water on the surface, but they are far from that now.

And what about our star? It is a "main sequence" class G2 yellow star, which is extremely abundant in this galaxy and probably throughout the universe. But its planetary system is much rarer. From what we have seen of other planetary systems, it seems it is common to find giant planets orbiting at just about any distance from the star. We've got a nice little area where life-supporting planets can form around our star which not only is devoid of giant planets but even has giants just outside that zone which clear the area and make those environments much safer.

Our galaxy is a giant spiral galaxy, one of the largest kinds of star formations we can see in the sky. Within our giant spiral galaxy is thousands of globular clusters and other smaller star formations, including what seems to be the remnants of other galaxies swallowed up by the monster we live in. This may not be so strange after all when you consider that a large percentage of all stars exist within spiral galaxies. There is a much larger percentage within the even larger elliptical galaxies though, and those stars may not support life very often. One thing that is pretty common in any grouping of billions of stars is supernovas. They are an extremely rare event but have a habit of briefly outshining their entire galaxy, so one supernova anywhere in the galaxy is blindingly obvious to that entire galaxy. This can cause problems when the supernova light irradiates planets hundreds of parsecs away--how does life have a chance to develop when it gets crushed every few centuries? Well in our galaxy there are many thick dust clouds in the inner section which obscure the light coming from some stars, and supernovas are most likely to occur towards the center. A blast well within range of completely destabilizing our environment usually is to us just a bright light in the sky.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-07-12 19:57:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Grimpak
heh.

In a predatorial sense, we're actually badass. our bi-pedal configuration, while it does not give the grip, power and instant speed that a tetra-pedal configuration provides, it is actually quite optimal for a type of predation that is almost unique to humans: we chase our prey till they get tired.
Well prepared hunters can hunt for prey for days, work with ambushes, or simply chase the prey for hours on end. We have the stamina for that. Injuries that would cripple any animal, for example a deep, non-lethal wound, or even amputation would prove to be deadly in the long run. Humans however, can still function with one hand, one arm, or one leg. Some creatures that we consider to have some vigour, can enter into shock only by getting such wounds. Add to that, the great adaptation capability that our human body has.
Bit of trivia: some of the condiments we eat are borderline toxic, yet we eat them because we enjoy them. Example: jalapeñosP, or anything spicy for that matter.

We are much more resilient to damage than many people think, coupled with intelligence and some survival smarts, we can hunt like a pack of wolves and be much more efficient on it.

Hell, we can hunt a pack of wolves, armed with only spears and some survival smartsP

in a more general way, all life on earth evolved on the basis that it needs water. Chemically, water is a very interesting element, besides the fact that it has also capabilities on par with some industrial-level solvents.

in sum, if an alien came to visit us, he would be horrified by a savage, resilient species that drinks something akin to paint thinner in an hourly basis to keep itself alive, and adds toxic plants to meat that we hunt and kill with extreme efficiency because it tastes better.
Oh and we wear our prey' skins too.

in sum: we're badass.

[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]

[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right

Hona Chaginai
Naliao Inc.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#3 - 2014-07-12 20:10:23 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
heh.



in sum: we're badass.


I endorse this statement and/or opinion.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#4 - 2014-07-12 20:41:15 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
heh.

In a predatorial sense, we're actually badass. our bi-pedal configuration, while it does not give the grip, power and instant speed that a tetra-pedal configuration provides, it is actually quite optimal for a type of predation that is almost unique to humans: we chase our prey till they get tired.
Well prepared hunters can hunt for prey for days, work with ambushes, or simply chase the prey for hours on end. We have the stamina for that. Injuries that would cripple any animal, for example a deep, non-lethal wound, or even amputation would prove to be deadly in the long run. Humans however, can still function with one hand, one arm, or one leg. Some creatures that we consider to have some vigour, can enter into shock only by getting such wounds. Add to that, the great adaptation capability that our human body has.
Bit of trivia: some of the condiments we eat are borderline toxic, yet we eat them because we enjoy them. Example: jalapeñosP, or anything spicy for that matter.

We are much more resilient to damage than many people think, coupled with intelligence and some survival smarts, we can hunt like a pack of wolves and be much more efficient on it.

Hell, we can hunt a pack of wolves, armed with only spears and some survival smartsP

in a more general way, all life on earth evolved on the basis that it needs water. Chemically, water is a very interesting element, besides the fact that it has also capabilities on par with some industrial-level solvents.

in sum, if an alien came to visit us, he would be horrified by a savage, resilient species that drinks something akin to paint thinner in an hourly basis to keep itself alive, and adds toxic plants to meat that we hunt and kill with extreme efficiency because it tastes better.
Oh and we wear our prey' skins too.

in sum: we're badass.


The native species of this planet expose themselves to UV radiation as a part of their mating process.
Eurydia Vespasian
Storm Hunters
#5 - 2014-07-12 21:08:14 UTC
Grimpak wrote:
In a predatorial sense, we're actually badass. our bi-pedal configuration, while it does not give the grip, power and instant speed that a tetra-pedal configuration provides, it is actually quite optimal for a type of predation that is almost unique to humans: we chase our prey till they get tired.


yeah, idk. i get winded/borderline exhaustion sometimes just trying to keep up with the dog on a walk/jog.
Matilda Cecilia Fock
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2014-07-12 21:09:46 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
(...)

I'll start with some of the basic adaptations in humans, especially since I see many extraterrestrial people depicted in works of science fiction as being very human-like in ways that they shouldn't be. First-off, our eyes--human eyes are well adapted for spotting food sources and threats that are well camouflaged. We have an excellent ability to discern shapes and color patterns with the information gathered by our robust array of retinal cone cells, and a large and well-developed visual cortex allows us to interpret this data in order to see camouflaged creatures as distinctly separate from their backgrounds. We also have good depth perception and target-tracking ability. We can spot movement quickly and sharply from anywhere in our field of vision and once we focus both eyes on it, we can quickly discern its distance, position relative to other things, speed and heading--and then we can, in an instant, compute an optimal interception or evasion path which we can update on the fly as the target changes its movements. Our eyes are very well adapted for both hunting and fleeing, especially in colorful environments with chaotic patterns that would confuse other animals. These eyes have some drawbacks, too. We can't see around ourselves very well due to our use of both eyes pointing forward so both can focus on a single object. We also have adaptations to improve day vision at the cost of night vision. With eyes like these, we are relegated to being a diurnal species.(...)


As an interesting matter of fact, we acquired those eyes to adapt ourselves to the task of intercepting and grabbing fast moving tree branches i.e. jumping from a branch to another without missing the vital landing grasp.

So the next time you hit the ball with a bat, thank the pre-primate tree dwellers who developed that skill ~18 million years ago as missing a quickly incoming tree branch was the difference between life and a fatal fall.

It is quite interesting that other mammals who climb to trees but have their visual hardware tuned to tracking fast moving blurry targets and intercept them with their paws actually adapted themselves to land on their feet rather than avoid falling from trees...

Q: Should we be worried? A: Nope. (...) Worry a lot if Fozzie, Masterplan, Rise, Veritas, Bettik, Ytterbium, Scarpia, Arrow, or even Greyscale leaves. Worry a little if Punkturis, karkur, SoniClover, Affinity, Goliath, or Xhagen leaves.

Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2014-07-12 21:15:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Grimpak
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
heh.

In a predatorial sense, we're actually badass. our bi-pedal configuration, while it does not give the grip, power and instant speed that a tetra-pedal configuration provides, it is actually quite optimal for a type of predation that is almost unique to humans: we chase our prey till they get tired.
Well prepared hunters can hunt for prey for days, work with ambushes, or simply chase the prey for hours on end. We have the stamina for that. Injuries that would cripple any animal, for example a deep, non-lethal wound, or even amputation would prove to be deadly in the long run. Humans however, can still function with one hand, one arm, or one leg. Some creatures that we consider to have some vigour, can enter into shock only by getting such wounds. Add to that, the great adaptation capability that our human body has.
Bit of trivia: some of the condiments we eat are borderline toxic, yet we eat them because we enjoy them. Example: jalapeñosP, or anything spicy for that matter.

We are much more resilient to damage than many people think, coupled with intelligence and some survival smarts, we can hunt like a pack of wolves and be much more efficient on it.

Hell, we can hunt a pack of wolves, armed with only spears and some survival smartsP

in a more general way, all life on earth evolved on the basis that it needs water. Chemically, water is a very interesting element, besides the fact that it has also capabilities on par with some industrial-level solvents.

in sum, if an alien came to visit us, he would be horrified by a savage, resilient species that drinks something akin to paint thinner in an hourly basis to keep itself alive, and adds toxic plants to meat that we hunt and kill with extreme efficiency because it tastes better.
Oh and we wear our prey' skins too.

in sum: we're badass.


The native species of this planet expose themselves to UV radiation as a part of their mating process.
they also indulge themselves in life-threatening activities "just because".

Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
In a predatorial sense, we're actually badass. our bi-pedal configuration, while it does not give the grip, power and instant speed that a tetra-pedal configuration provides, it is actually quite optimal for a type of predation that is almost unique to humans: we chase our prey till they get tired.


yeah, idk. i get winded/borderline exhaustion sometimes just trying to keep up with the dog on a walk/jog.



actually, I was talking in a sense of keeping a steady pace. a human can cross quite a few km in a single go, transverse obstacles and continue to chase the prey with tracking skills alone.

very few other animals do this. Cheetahs can do amazing bursts of speed, but their actual reach is extremely limited compared to our own. And you compared yourself to dogs, which pretty much self-domesticated themselves to keep up with us.

Other predatorial animals will ambush or run down their prey. We, given good tracking skills, will pursue the prey for hours on end. Sure they are faster, but they will need to stop sometime, while we can still keep going, and, slowly but surely, we will get that prey.

[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]

[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right

Riyria Twinpeaks
Perkone
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-07-12 21:21:01 UTC
"Normal" needs a scope.
Our two forward facing, depth-perceiving, high resolution eye-brain configuration may not be the standard when looking at all species of the whole planet, but among predators it's a lot closer to the norm.

Our planet may be special as being on the large end of rocky planets, when you look at all planets in the universe, but who knows.. maybe it is a perfectly normal planet among those which carry life.

Choosing an individual or a family of closely related individuals and comparing them to a wide scope of different other individuals/families, will basically always give you many aspects in which your individuals of interest are not normal.

So .. I guess that's normal. ;P
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2014-07-12 21:28:50 UTC
Riyria Twinpeaks wrote:
"Normal" needs a scope.
Our two forward facing, depth-perceiving, high resolution eye-brain configuration may not be the standard when looking at all species of the whole planet, but among predators it's a lot closer to the norm.

Our planet may be special as being on the large end of rocky planets, when you look at all planets in the universe, but who knows.. maybe it is a perfectly normal planet among those which carry life.

Choosing an individual or a family of closely related individuals and comparing them to a wide scope of different other individuals/families, will basically always give you many aspects in which your individuals of interest are not normal.

So .. I guess that's normal. ;P


stereoscopic vision is a given in land-based predators. each eye's field of vision needs to be overlapping as to kinda "triangulate" a position, so that you can have instant perception on range, size and depth, a capability that is pretty much mandatory when hunting. it's, probably, the only standard as far as land-based predators go.

as for the rest, well, we may not be born with claws, nor fangs, but we can forge themCool

[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]

[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right

Nose' Feliciano
#10 - 2014-07-12 21:59:10 UTC
normal?

no such animal....all is relative.

Quote:
"Sanity is madness put to good uses; waking life is a dream controlled."
-George Santayana, Interpretations of Poetry and Religion (1900)

Mudkest
Contagious Goat Labs
#11 - 2014-07-12 22:46:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Mudkest
"in a more general way, all life on earth evolved on the basis that it needs water. Chemically, water is a very interesting element, besides the fact that it has also capabilities on par with some industrial-level solvents"

Don't forget about that highly reactive gas in our atmosphere, it ruins just about any metal, and can also react with a lot of organic and non-organic materials. If the atmospheric make up would contain a few more % of this gas (forrest) fires would happen a lot more often.

And we die without it, hell we die if it drops just a few %. Oxygen, even more ridiculous then water

(edit: also, is water considered an element?)
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2014-07-12 22:58:40 UTC
Mudkest wrote:
(edit: also, is water considered an element?)



you're right. it's a compound.

[img]http://eve-files.com/sig/grimpak[/img]

[quote]The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.[/quote] ain't that right

Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2014-07-12 23:22:12 UTC
Eurydia Vespasian wrote:
Grimpak wrote:
In a predatorial sense, we're actually badass. our bi-pedal configuration, while it does not give the grip, power and instant speed that a tetra-pedal configuration provides, it is actually quite optimal for a type of predation that is almost unique to humans: we chase our prey till they get tired.


yeah, idk. i get winded/borderline exhaustion sometimes just trying to keep up with the dog on a walk/jog.
You might get tired at first, trying to keep up with your dog. That's probably due to your dog being more interested in sprinting and getting good exercise than you are. Dogs are rambunctious. But if you and your dog were lost in the wilderness, your dog would likely tire before you would, and if neither of you had food, your dog would get grossly thin and verge on starvation while you were merely pale and it took willpower for you to walk. You'd have to carry your dog.

But dogs/wolves have very high stamina, among the highest of quadrupedal tetrapods.

And quadrupedal tetrapods sounds like a redundant statement, but in fact humans are bipedal tetrapods--we have four leg-limbs and we use two for walking.



One of the things that makes us humans odd is that our eyes are built for predation on animals while our teeth are built for predation on plants. But our robust digestive systems help make up for it, as we are capable of processing into energy virtually all soft, non-poisonous organic matter we come across, as well as a wide variety of poisonous things. Some of the poisonous foods we can eat with impunity:
Potatoes (cooking them neutralizes the poison but we can eat them raw if we like)
Cocoa and Coffee - highly toxic to the point of being lethal for many animals
Milk - most adult humans have trouble with this but a growing number are able to process lactose beyond childhood
and probably many others



Our planet may be unique among life-supporting planets. Research is showing that liquid water is most common underneath the surface of planets rather than on their surface, and these worlds may not only be able to support life, they may be ideal for life, as they can provide some of the hostile environments required for life to start, but with greater stability which life needs to have time to spread and develop defenses.

If ours is odd among life-supporting worlds, then we humans might be living in a rather rare biome: supermarine soil within a biosphere. Perhaps most people out there who develop advanced civilizations live underwater, and the ones who live in a gas medium perhaps live in a variety of possible environments, equally as strange as ours.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
#14 - 2014-07-12 23:44:04 UTC
But, our actual body strength is less than that of a chimpanzee, which has body mass of maybe half a humans. In other words, a chimpanzee can lift a heavier weight than an athletic male human. Apparently while evolving, our species traded some muscle strength for IQ. It's recently been found that some the concentration of a certain enzyme has a correlation to IQ vs. body strength. Generally, individuals with higher concentrations of it tend to have higher IQs and lower body strength. And vice versa. Lower concentrations tend to have lower IQs and higher body strength. Thus, the weakling nerd/dumb jock stereotype seems to have some basis in truth.

Source: A recent article in The Economist, reporting on an article or Nature or Science probably. I could be arsed to try to find it, but not arsed enough to actually find it. Ugh
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#15 - 2014-07-12 23:46:28 UTC
Nice post. Smile

Our brain (and thumb) is really our only evolutionary assets.

I remember reading a great article that tried to debunk the idea of 'Intelligent design' by showing just how poorly designed the human body is when you really think about it.

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2014-07-13 00:50:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Apes in general are rather strange among animals not only in having dexterous hands and arms that can manipulate objects with high precision, but that are long and lanky, yet boast an incredibly great strength to mass ratio. Many animals have very powerful jaws, but powerful arms is not something you see very often. It is not unheard of for an ape to literally tear a creature apart with its brute strength when in a wrestling match to the death.

But we humans are the weak apes, as we traded away our strength for inventiveness, attentiveness, and communication. That rolls off the tongue nicely.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

Erica Dusette
Division 13
#17 - 2014-07-13 00:55:03 UTC
Reaver Glitterstim wrote:
Apes in general are rather strange among animals not only in having dexterous hands and arms that can manipulate objects with high precision, but that are long and lanky, yet boast an incredibly great strength to mass ratio. Many animals have very powerful jaws, but powerful arms is not something you see very often. It is not unheard of for an ape to literally tear a creature apart with its brute strength when in a wrestling match to the death.

But we humans are the weak apes, as we traded away our strength for inventiveness, attentiveness, and communication. That rolls off the tongue nicely.

I heard Hippo are actually some of the most badass creatures around.

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Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2014-07-13 00:55:06 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:
Nice post. Smile

Our brain (and thumb) is really our only evolutionary assets.

I remember reading a great article that tried to debunk the idea of 'Intelligent design' by showing just how poorly designed the human body is when you really think about it.

I really think of your body pretty often: it's wonderfully designed.

Make space glamorous! Is EVE dying or not? Ask the EVE-O Death-o-meter!

Erica Dusette
Division 13
#19 - 2014-07-13 01:02:05 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
Erica Dusette wrote:
Nice post. Smile

Our brain (and thumb) is really our only evolutionary assets.

I remember reading a great article that tried to debunk the idea of 'Intelligent design' by showing just how poorly designed the human body is when you really think about it.

I really think of your body pretty often: it's wonderfully designed.

I ..... uh ... you .... it .... oh goodness. Oops

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

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Reaver Glitterstim
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2014-07-13 01:27:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Reaver Glitterstim
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:
I really think of your body pretty often: it's wonderfully designed.
Eyes that can breach the darkness to pierce into a person's soul. A wonderful design indeed, Erica.

FT Diomedes: "Reaver, sometimes I wonder what you are thinking when you sit down to post."

Frostys Virpio: "We have to give it to him that he does put more effort than the vast majority in his idea but damn does it sometime come out of nowhere."

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