EVE General Discussion

I am going to say I disagree with this article. Sorry, but the thing that retained me back in 2007 was that the universe was harsh, and there was a steep learning curve. I remember looking at all the various ships and items on the market and seeing that it would take literally years to even fly (let alone use, or even afford) some of them, and I felt very small.

And that was combined with all the politics, and drama, and open world PVP. This was awesome, and why I am still here.

If you shelter and protect new players in the way this article describes, all you are doing is postponing the inevitable. Facts are, as soon as these people hit "real EVE" something will happen that makes them quit. They just aren't suitable to play this game. I don't care how well they do in other MMOs, or how successful they are in the real world, surviving in EVE takes a special kind of resilience that quite frankly most MMO gamers do not have.

And that is what makes this game so special, moreso than any game mechanic or piece of content it has. To do well in EVE, you have to look at things as challenges to overcome instead of obstacles to be avoided, and you have to learn early on that it's better to have friends than skills.

And most importantly, you have to learn that it is possible to do everything right and still lose. It's amazing how these real life lessons that most people never seem to learn are also so important in this game, and I believe it speaks volumes on the quality of the universe CCP have created.

To some, money is the only thing that matters. A game is successful because it makes tons of money. But EVE is more important than that. EVE is also an artistic vision, an experiment, and the facts are it has outlasted all the so-called EVE killing competition so far, and stolen players from them in the process. This game is a success by any measure.

And as for the lore, it isn't important on a day to day basis but it does set the tone of the universe, and what exists in it. Scrapping it for something as insulting as retooling the NPE to coddle people who will just quit in a month anyway is a truly insulting notion. Normally, I'm the first to defend the nullsec culture, but maybe if you named your stations something besides "TROLOLOL XOXO THIS GUY IS A PUBBIE LOLOLOL" you might understand.

MNG

Think what you want, my points still stand.

No, you just aren't looking at the right things.

I am not a role player, character names to not matter. However, there is a big difference between naming your character something stupid and naming an outpost, whose name can be viewed anywhere in the universe whenever someone is looking at markets and contracts, something stupid.

The lore is, however, important to determine what content CCP puts in the game. You know, that's why they release new chronicles when they add new features that would have an impact on lore? Like they did with work teams and inferno boosters recently?

So really, if this is the best you can do to discredit me that is pretty sad.

OMG LOL

No there isnt

How is your name within the lore?




So your spaceship is real, is it?

Where is that IZ meme when you need it? Your quote here reminds me of "trained attack dogs." Lol.

Those carebears will get the "sternest telling off ever, non-violently, of course."

No, I actually have a pair, and I'm not a passive aggressive wuss, so I'll say what I mean.

Oh, I fully agree, but you have to admit, the opportunity presented itself for trolling.

So... by that argument you can call a station anything you like, yes?

If we accept that both names are out of role play, then we can still see that one instance is clearly worse than the other. A single character with an OORP name is far less serious than labeling an in-game monument (because that is what an outpost basically is) with an OORP name.

And, if you want to roleplay, even if an individual refers to themselves as something dumb, very few large organizations give their buildings dumb names. If the nullsec alliances were like real world entities, they would call these building "Goonswarm Federal Station" or maybe even simply "Goonswarm Station".

I am curious, however, how this actually matters in the context of the original post? How does the way a character is named impact whether or not they are able to cope with the challenges in EVE?