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Love this game but afraid to commit

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Corven Tereghen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2014-07-11 00:16:41 UTC
[whine]

TL;DR: Grown man struggles with real life commitments interfering with playing EVE to a level acceptable to him. Can he play at this level or should he biomass and GTFO?

Not sure if I need a shrink or just a good smack in the jaw, but I have this problem that’s bothering me: I wish I could bring myself to play this game for real (ex. joining a corp and fleeting up), but I can’t.

Half the problem is my outside commitments. My wife *just* tolerates me being a gamer, other games get jealous when I hang out with MMOs, and my job happens to pay for all those games. I feel like those would cut too much out of the commitment needed to be useful in a corp. I’m not even talking about the herculean levels of commitment that hardcore players have, like logging in at 3am their time to defend a POS coming out of reinforced. I’m talking about small FW roams and weekend mining ops in 0.5. I don’t think I can hack it without ditching my wife, cutting work early, and/or making EVE the only game I play.

The other half of the problem is social. I don’t know a single person who plays this game and all my attempts to encourage my few gaming friends to play have failed. That means I have to find a corp who will surely put me—a relatively experienced player with a new account—under a lot of scrutiny for being a possible AWOXer. I was once kicked from a corp on another character for suspicion of being a thief; this made it very hard to join other corps because my only references thought I had stolen their stuff. I don’t want a repeat performance of that.

The one time I successfully played EVE with a corp, it went from being an empire mining corp to heading up a 0.0 alliance; I played for almost two years before the corp collapsed and it was the greatest time I’ve ever had in game. Back then I was single and living off my university funds; it was easy to play for 6 hours a day if I wanted. Now, every time I try to restart I just end up going it alone and quitting from boredom two months later because I’m afraid to commit to a corp.

Are my glory days lost to me?

[/whine]
Garandras
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2014-07-11 00:22:41 UTC
Well what do you want to do..

FW can work on a casual basis.. so can high sec

Null and Sov stuff requires a bit more commitment

Jim Era
#3 - 2014-07-11 00:23:01 UTC
wat

Wat™

Giuseppe R Raimondo
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2014-07-11 00:26:19 UTC
before you biomass give me your stuff. pretty please
Korvus Falek
Depraved Corruption
Lux Inter Astra
#5 - 2014-07-11 00:28:54 UTC
Join RvB or BRAVE. Low committment, low skill needed, invest however much you want.

I hear both are helpful with a person like you =)
Marsha Mallow
#6 - 2014-07-11 00:29:06 UTC
Treat it like a derty slapper you'd bang but not marry. Commit when you want to, cavort with others, run away screaming when anyone mentions alarm clock ops. Or asks for your phone number to ping you for cap ops - seriously the first time this was mentioned I laughed so hard couldn't speak for a minute. Nerds.

Most corps support semi casuals btw - they'd have no 'grunts' otherwise. It's only niche groups that ask for your life (and usually you can just sacrifice FCs/logistics/corp/alliance lead & diplos to that). Even decent 'elite' corps use pings so people aren't logged in 18 hours a day waiting for a fight.

You don't have to maintain high activity levels consistently forever either, plenty of people cycle their activity up and down. Just make sure no one can nick your stuff/it's not trapped in inaccessible spots if you take longer breaks.

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day

Sylveria Relden
#7 - 2014-07-11 00:33:04 UTC
LOL, after reading the title, I had expected one of those "It's not you, it's me." lines.... :P

TL;DR If you didn't read the entire post perhaps you're probably ADHD. (seek help)

Corven Tereghen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#8 - 2014-07-11 00:33:37 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Treat it like a derty slapper you'd bang but not marry. Commit when you want to, cavort with others, run away screaming when anyone mentions alarm clock ops. Or asks for your phone number to ping you for cap ops - seriously the first time this was mentioned I laughed so hard couldn't speak for a minute. Nerds.

Most corps support semi casuals btw - they'd have no 'grunts' otherwise. It's only niche groups that ask for your life (and usually you can just sacrifice FCs/logistics/corp/alliance lead & diplos to that). Even decent 'elite' corps use pings so people aren't logged in 18 hours a day waiting for a fight.

You don't have to maintain high activity levels consistently forever either, plenty of people cycle their activity up and down. Just make sure no one can nick your stuff/it's not trapped in inaccessible spots if you take longer breaks.


Thanks, that's comforting to hear.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#9 - 2014-07-11 00:35:27 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Treat it like a derty slapper you'd bang but not marry. Commit when you want to, cavort with others, run away screaming when anyone mentions alarm clock ops. Or asks for your phone number to ping you for cap ops - seriously the first time this was mentioned I laughed so hard couldn't speak for a minute. Nerds.

Wow, and you said -I- was a dirty scrubber. Lol

Those alarm clock ops are pretty common in the corps I've been involved with, along with those Jabber pings to your phone. Some folks take their EVE pretty seriously! Days off work for an eviction op, pee into a bottle doing hole control, 4am wakeup for a cap kill, 30+ hours in the character creator, etc.

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#10 - 2014-07-11 00:39:04 UTC
Don't be shy, we have candy, and exotic dancers.
Paranoid Loyd
#11 - 2014-07-11 00:42:14 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Don't be shy, we have candy, and exotic dancers.


What about socks? Do you have socks?

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Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#12 - 2014-07-11 00:51:19 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Don't be shy, we have candy, and exotic dancers.


What about socks? Do you have socks?

I do loyd, I do.
I also have 3yold twins and share my pc with my partner so I can see where the op is coming from.

Look at it this way, the only thing one needs grind for in eve is isk, and you don't need to actually grind for thatBlink

Go out, shoot people in low sec, make friends, laugh about your failures
Make sock puppetsif you like.
Marsha Mallow
#13 - 2014-07-11 00:54:15 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:
Wow, and you said -I- was a dirty scrubber. Lol

Was meant as a compliment, one to another >.> Except for the RPing which is scary. I (and another scrubber) tried to RP wookies/lightsabers/ewoks on a SWTOR guild comms during recruitment, because they were being a bit too serious. Didn't end well. They knew we were EvE players and accused us of being Goons. FML.

Erica Dusette wrote:
Those alarm clock ops are pretty common in the corps I've been involved with, along with those Jabber pings to your phone. Some folks take their EVE pretty seriously! Days off work for an eviction op, pee into a bottle doing hole control, 4am wakeup for a cap kill, 30+ hours in the character creator, etc.

Ye, they don't do that much after you burst out laughing and tell them to do disgusting things with themselves. I'll stay up for ops if I'm drunk and forget the time but not getting out of bed for it, Jesus. Decent groups usually have a cache of 'dedicated' types for that. Fair enough if it's your corp or you're really tight knit, but it does burn people out maintaining that level of attention for long periods.

Whose socks are those purple ones anyway, and why do they have monkeys on em?

Ripard Teg > For the morons in the room:

Sweets > U can dd my face any day

LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#14 - 2014-07-11 00:57:16 UTC  |  Edited by: LUMINOUS SPIRIT
Its not really worth it. EVE is only really worth it of you are part of an established group and play regularly. Not much solo / casual content.

Factional warfare is really for organized small gangs;

RvB is a bunch of bitter vets farming noob players out of boredom;

High sec gets boring rather quickly if you solo
Lun Garemoko
#15 - 2014-07-11 01:18:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Lun Garemoko
Nothing ventured, nothing gained.

Korvus Falek wrote:
Join RvB or BRAVE. Low committment, low skill needed, invest however much you want.

I hear both are helpful with a person like you =)



Also do that. Or FW.
Val'Dore
PlanetCorp InterStellar
#16 - 2014-07-11 01:20:26 UTC
What would your wife prefer you do? Hide in a garage and rebuild a big block?

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Comprachicos Pendulum
Astrum Diligentia
#17 - 2014-07-11 01:20:59 UTC
Honestly, I'm in the same boat. 5-6 hours a week or less. I buy 10frigates , and head to FW space. Soon as I log in, even if it's only 15 minutes before I'm snagged back to being a husband/father, I undock and start dscanning. It can work, depends how you want it to. Sometimes it's a nice treat to come back to eve on weekends to see a new skill trained.
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#18 - 2014-07-11 01:40:34 UTC
Marsha Mallow wrote:
Erica Dusette wrote:
Wow, and you said -I- was a dirty scrubber. Lol

Was meant as a compliment, one to another >.>

It's cool yo, I'm down with a bit o' trollin'.

No fun in taking the **** outta myself all the time if others can't too. Big smile

Marsha Mallow wrote:
Except for the RPing which is scary.

I too am scared each time I watch a movie on TV. Oops

RP's not such a big deal really. I've been doing it since I was a teenager around tables with dice (and still meet 20 years later for the occasional game with friends), but roleplaying online in MMOs can be so much more immersive.

If you ever need a hand moving past your RP phobia hit me up. I'll help you manage that lightsaber of yours as well as those furry things.

Jack Miton > you be nice or you're sleeping on the couch again!

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Grog Aftermath
Doomheim
#19 - 2014-07-11 01:59:09 UTC
Recommend less whine


Afraid to commit to a corp, you're being too serious, it's a game.






Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#20 - 2014-07-11 02:09:04 UTC
LUMINOUS SPIRIT wrote:
Its not really worth it. EVE is only really worth it of you are part of an established group and play regularly. Not much solo / casual content.

Factional warfare is really for organized small gangs;

RvB is a bunch of bitter vets farming noob players out of boredom;

High sec gets boring rather quickly if you solo


Except for the shitload of casual and solo content, yeah for sure.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it

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