Warfare & Tactics

While the changes are a step in the right direction, they're far from perfect.

WCS really have no place inside a FW plex and should be disabled upon entry. Failing that, prevent ships fitted with them from entering entirely. Hull-based warp strength modifiers can remain active, forcing farmers to either combat fit their ship or resort to the Venture and give anti-farmers a base warp strength to work against.

A flat ban on cloaking is ridiculous. Disable cloaks on non-covert ships within a plex, once again removing a level of safety from a farmer while allowing combat fit covert op/recon ships to operate normally. If a farmer wants to cloak in a plex, they should be made to train and pay that little extra to do so.

On a similar note, the changes to the beacon are less than welcome. As a combat pilot, I shouldn't have to butcher my overview to have easy access to the warp-in point. Return the original beacon to how it was before, and have the new "@0" beacon disabled by default. Again, if a farmer wants to cloak, they should be made to work for it.

Currently the mechanics only dissuade farmers from offensive plexing, which tips the balance in favour of the defender. It's great that CCP finally took steps to address the issue, but it seems like little consideration was given to the impact these changes would have upon those who actually fight inside the plexes.

Just like your face!

Working as intented and realy enjoyed of this :)

Next upgrade will be to be unable to enter plex if not in FW OR NPC shooting on neutral entering in plexes (if pirate).

It's absurd to think the recent changes have had any impact on major stronghold fights.
Stabs? You've never ever seen those in fights. See Innia, Kehjari, or Eha campaigns.
More PvP? No... again, see other stronghold fights. They happened before the changes and they will happen after. the changes have had only a slight impact on offensive plexing in force.


The ONLY thing different is the inclusion of large plexes into the normal rotation.






That said, I'm annoyed I can't use meta PvP Heron or LML Kestrel in plexes now.

Why should it not be possible? CCP have you the tools to handle stabs. Use them.

I meant YOU have the tools. A scram, multiple point, etc. Use them.

I want unrestricted AND bc plexes with a gate - so we can field bc fleets again without getting blobbed easily.

Gals should know - we had all this nice bc fights in eha/ oicx and I was in cal mil.

It all comes down to this - do you see rewarding semi-afk gameplay as a problem or not.

No.

Sort of the opposite really.

Low sec players who don't want stabs want more risk not less. Null sec players who are against afk cloaks want less risk.

You can afk cloak all you want in low sec and no one will care.

Stabs are needed for travel. You have to move assets.


One way would be to disarm weapons when stabs are fitted. Malus on scan res and lock range maybe is not enough. Another way would be to dramatically increase CPU needs - maybe 4 times.