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One weird trick that CCP uses to increase cash flow.

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Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#1 - 2014-07-09 20:18:07 UTC
Actually, everyone seems to want to start discussion on PLEX. But they end up locked - for being redundant.
I cannot find an active General Discussion thread on the topic, however. The GD threads in the search engine are all locked.

Main question is this:

Can someone link to an unlocked PLEX discussion in General Discussion? If PLEX discussion threads are redundant, where is the relevant threadnought I am missing?

Personally - I think that this is the process that is occurring:

1. CCP is simply conjuring up ISK. (because they can create or destroy ISK at will)
2. Buying PLEX off the open market, using the 'free' ISK.
3. Then, trashing the ISK.

Price of PLEX is driven up, due to reduced supply. PLEX selling ISK buyers like this, as they get more ISK for their $.
Using this method, CCP earns subscription income (through PLEX sales)......WITHOUT having to provide a service (mainly server time) which has a cost.

Just my opinion, which I feel is correct.

Well played CCP. Very clever.
Conscientious, no.
Clever, yes.
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2014-07-09 20:19:55 UTC
Players are already doing this. Why would CCP need to?

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2014-07-09 20:22:51 UTC
ECONOMISTS HATE HER - MOTHER RAISES PLEX PRICES USING THIS ONE WEIRD OLD TRICK, CLICK HERE
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2014-07-09 20:23:43 UTC
Im willing to bet half the jita population are just trading plex.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2014-07-09 20:27:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
Just one problem with this nutball conspiracy theory: higher PLEX prices does not improve CCP's income. They lose customers and/or make them transition to the (much cheaper) subscription options.

The historical trade volumes do not support the notion that higher prices lead to more people buying PLEX to sell for ISK — the volumes remain constant, which, together with the well-observed fact that more and more PLEX are being re-listed, means that if anything the actual injection number has gone down as prices increase.

Lowering your income, driving away players, and actively sabotaging your own efforts to keep price changes smooth does not strike me as either “well played” or “clever”.
Carmen Electra
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#6 - 2014-07-09 20:28:32 UTC
Posting in a stealth PLEX thread... oh wait... Cry

Bacon makes us stronger
Holgrak Blacksmith
Prophets of Motav
#7 - 2014-07-09 20:29:39 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
ECONOMISTS HATE HER - MOTHER RAISES PLEX PRICES USING THIS ONE WEIRD OLD TRICK, CLICK HERE


I logged n just to give this a like.
Fulbert
Industriels Independants SARL
#8 - 2014-07-09 20:33:07 UTC
Why would they buy & resell PLEX to destroy ISKs, instead of manipulating ALL major commodities on Jita (minerals, isotopes, planetary, ships)???
Manipulating PLEXs is gross, and it's the easier way to make people leave EVE ...
Azitek
Serenity Labs
#9 - 2014-07-09 20:39:32 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Just my opinion, which I feel is correct.

Thanks for clarifying that what you think is indeed what you think.
VonCricer
The Spring
#10 - 2014-07-09 20:47:03 UTC
Conspiracy theories are the best theories..... Once more for the cheap seats. Plex prices go up because there are more buyers then sellers.....period
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2014-07-09 20:50:58 UTC
Error 404: Space economist not found.

Sugar Von MurdererTits : Jake Warbird gets my vote for most intriguing and attractive male character in Eve.
Herr Wilkus
Aggressive Salvage Services LLC
#12 - 2014-07-09 20:51:02 UTC
Azitek wrote:
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Just my opinion, which I feel is correct.

Thanks for clarifying that what you think is indeed what you think.


Yes, just a disclaimer, because if I asserted that 'CCP is doing this', it would be rumor-mongering.

Much like the Bletchley Park Tunny codebreakers deducing the existence of the German Lorenz device without ever having seen it - this is a theory, explaining a system that I believe exists - based on the evidence we are allowed to see.

CCP isn't going to willingly show us their $-making Lorenz device, after all. State secrets and all that.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#13 - 2014-07-09 20:56:19 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Much like the Bletchley Park Tunny codebreakers deducing the existence of the German Lorenz device without ever having seen it - this is a theory, explaining a system that I believe exists - based on the evidence we are allowed to see.

CCP isn't going to willingly show us their $-making Lorenz device, after all. State secrets and all that.

The problem is that the evidence we're allowed to see all points in the exact opposite of what you think, and your hypothesis does not explain what we see in the market.

Had you actually read all those locked threads, you would have noticed a common theme: they were all locked because they said the same thing you did (so you are offering nothing new here) and because they were therefore very easily debunked and proven wrong.
Rumple Tugly
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2014-07-09 20:59:29 UTC
This is all well and good but I prefer my weird tricks to come from Fox news. We'll know it's a problem when we hear it there.
Organic Lager
Drinking Buddies
#15 - 2014-07-09 21:00:40 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Azitek wrote:
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Just my opinion, which I feel is correct.

Thanks for clarifying that what you think is indeed what you think.


Yes, just a disclaimer, because if I asserted that 'CCP is doing this', it would be rumor-mongering.

Much like the Bletchley Park Tunny codebreakers deducing the existence of the German Lorenz device without ever having seen it - this is a theory, explaining a system that I believe exists - based on the evidence we are allowed to see.

CCP isn't going to willingly show us their $-making Lorenz device, after all. State secrets and all that.


I think the tin foil has started to seep into your brain. You should probably see a doctor asap.
VonCricer
The Spring
#16 - 2014-07-09 21:01:37 UTC
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Azitek wrote:
Herr Wilkus wrote:
Just my opinion, which I feel is correct.

Thanks for clarifying that what you think is indeed what you think.


Yes, just a disclaimer, because if I asserted that 'CCP is doing this', it would be rumor-mongering.

Much like the Bletchley Park Tunny codebreakers deducing the existence of the German Lorenz device without ever having seen it - this is a theory, explaining a system that I believe exists - based on the evidence we are allowed to see.

CCP isn't going to willingly show us their $-making Lorenz device, after all. State secrets and all that.


So the theory is the CCP may be engaging in a massive effort to defraud customers which if found out would totally disrupt their business rather than the simple fact that not as many people are selling Plex as buying them currently.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-gjAgxqopCIg/U4fk0-rRQNI/AAAAAAAALa4/NdI4x4Ihztw/s1600/really.gif


ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#17 - 2014-07-09 21:03:42 UTC
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