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you can repeat it over and over again that ISBoxer didn't accelerate any gain, and it will be still completely wrong.

you have no delay with ISBoxer compared to somebody who ALT#Tabs so you have a alpha damage without delay. you give all commands to every single account at the same time. with ISBoxer you only play 1 character and copy everything to another character.

thats plain and simple an automation.

stop comparing to single characters, you can play only one single character with full concentration and no delay. on EN24 is a nice example, the ISBoxer bomber quad. possible with ISBoxer, impossible with ALT+TAB. same with ISBoxer alpha gates, all ships align at the same time, all move at the same time, all shoot at the same time and so on. nothing you can do without such tools.

your gain is that you play only one account and several other accounts do exactly the same at exactly the same time.

you can kill stuff much more faster without any delay
you have an alpha because you have no delay
with automation you avoid to do the same thjing on several other accounts like open the cargobay and put ore into the bay
you warp, align, decloak, jump what ever without delay
.....

you gain alot with ISBoxer tools, advantages you can't do without them and you accelerate things. killing faster is also an acceleration, doesn't matter if it is a NPC or a player. and with ISBoxer bomber squads you can also switch complete fleet fights.

the EULA is talking exactly about this kind of third party software.

How is it argued that isboxer does not accelerate gain for someone?

Isboxer makes it so you do not have to go to each of your pilots and command it to do something. How is that not accelerating you faster than someone else? Instead of going through 10 20 30 40 pilots each, you just have to do it for one so it DRASTICALLY reduces the time needed for you to command your own fleet. You then benefit from that.

If isboxer does that, makes 40 pilots into 1 pilot command wise, how is it argued that does not accelerate gain of isk for someone? It does not matter at all what he does with the isk, it is the fact that he gains it at an increased rate.

Compare time needed to go from one pilot window to the next to input commands with time needed to input command to 1 pilot and isboxer replicates said command to every other open window making it so you do not have to go to each window to input command.

This is not accelerated rate?

Conspiracy from within.

*whispers quietly* Rabbit Season! Duck Season!

In other words, you can not answer the question with out exposing your argument for the BS that it is, so you must resort to insults.

More insults from the crowd of liars. What a surprise.

No, I mean I have no idea what the hell point you're trying to make about my supposed use of ISBoxer, or how that in any way relates to the discussion at hand. Your ideas are jumping all over the place like a seagull on crack. Hold my hand and walk me through it slowly, because frankly my man, you're not making any sense.



You do if you choose to continue playing the game. If, on the other hand, you're unsubscribing, then you're absolutely correct, you do not have to abide by any rules made up by CCP except the ones regarding the resale of their IP for real money.


Also, the customer isn't always right.

Actually there's a very simple question that can solve this. Answer with a simple boolean.

1. CCP, as the owner and administrator of Eve Online, has the right to create and enforce rules pertaining to the playing of said game.

So you want me to buy a video camera so you can get your creepy stalk on watching me play eve? That's just weird brah..


Now if you're offering to buy me a good video cam then I'd like at least a go pro level. Has to be good quality so you can be sure to see my fingers on teh keyboard and such in detail.


EDIT : To get serious for a moment if I did manually first and isboxer second that would easily result in less earned on the second.

Botting is not allowed because it:

1) tampers with the game client, mostly hooking into same processes and DLL's to harvest information (client modification)

2) injects information to the game client (client modification)

3) performs actions without human input (automation of game play)

ISBoxer does none of these as it functions over DirectInput, just like your keyboard and mouse. It also does not hook into the process to harvest information or to post information into the client. Neither does ISBoxer perform any actions without human input.

Only comparing player vs. player is pointless as CCP has clarified that the EULA refers to account vs. account comparisons.

Again, no. Player B is just as limited as Player A in how long actual events in EVE transpire. ISBoxer does NOT accelerate gameplay. It accelerates, if anything, interaction across clients. Everything else that occurs in the game environment, from reloading to rats actually exploding, happens at the same rate regardless of use of ISBoxer or not. There is, therefore, no accelerated time on the server side of the acquisition of items or ISK, and the same rules still apply to the client side in regards to how interaction must occur from the player to the client.