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Rorqual new roles

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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#21 - 2014-07-03 07:57:17 UTC
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Lana Banely wrote:


If CCP makes POS Mining boost modules they can remove Rorqual from eve, it is THE most unused ship in eve, not to mention wasted skill time for skills that will never be in use.


Someone has never heard of this ship.

"Do you know what you are, capsuleer?"
"Not dumb enough to fly this ship?"

I use my rorq a lot to mine.

If you want, you can mine like mad out in nullsec, our renters frequently do it thanks to the mining upgrades on their ihub.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Lana Banely
Orion Constellation Inc.
#22 - 2014-07-05 00:13:25 UTC
OK
There we have so called BITCHING on post

Any suggestions from now please?

Ty
James Amril-Kesh
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2014-07-05 02:31:13 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
James Amril-Kesh wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Lana Banely wrote:


If CCP makes POS Mining boost modules they can remove Rorqual from eve, it is THE most unused ship in eve, not to mention wasted skill time for skills that will never be in use.


Someone has never heard of this ship.

"Do you know what you are, capsuleer?"
"Not dumb enough to fly this ship?"

I use my rorq a lot to mine.

If you want, you can mine like mad out in nullsec, our renters frequently do it thanks to the mining upgrades on their ihub.

Was referring to the Revenant.

Enjoying the rain today? ;)
Deornoth Drake
Vandeo
#24 - 2014-07-05 06:20:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Deornoth Drake
Some other discussion
Possible Rorqual Rebirth --- some great ideas there!
Moon Mining SPACESHIP

Lana Banely wrote:
Capital Industrial Ships bonuses (per skill level):
50% bonus to Capital Remote Shield Booster range
20% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage

I did make use of both of them: the corp rorqual boosting from behind POS shields and my personal one hauling and defending the miners. Possible Rorqual Rebirth states an idea where you would be able to do both with a single Rorqual

Lana Banely wrote:

900% bonus to Survey Scanner range
200% bonus to Cargo Scanners range

Have to admit that I didn't use them on the Rorqual. Not so much use in 0.0 for both of them.
The Survey Scanner is not that interesting since you either strip the complete belt or you concentrate on certain types of roods.
The Cargo Scanner to determine if you should tractor a can, is replaced by renaming the can by the mining pilot, which has to put the ore into that can anyway.
Deornoth Drake
Vandeo
#25 - 2014-07-05 06:30:12 UTC
DaReaper wrote:
or 3) and this would need a massive change, as ring mining doesntl seem to be coming, remove moon harvesting arrays from pos' and make it so the rorq has to manually mine the moon goo.

That should fit well with CCP's plan to require more activity of pilots.
Right now you setup your POS, keep it running (once a month) and you defend it when required. Maybe also kill some of those stealing units.
In contrast, PI you have to be more active.
- restarting the harvesting
- moving the extractors due to changing yield

But for moon goo ... it has neary stayed the same for a long time.
Lisa Shackleford
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2014-07-05 06:48:28 UTC
Having use a Rorqual almost daily for 3 years I think there is a real simple change it need. NONE. Leave it alone works as intended now.
Arronicus
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2014-07-05 08:47:30 UTC
Lana Banely wrote:
Capital Industrial Ships bonuses (per skill level):

20% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage <-- Unused

Role Bonus:

900% bonus to Survey Scanner range <-- Unused and stupid

If CCP makes POS Mining boost modules they can remove Rorqual from eve, it is THE most unused ship in eve, not to mention wasted skill time for skills that will never be in use. It is shame that you see super caps on grid in fights and you cant see Rorqual even in belt.


*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.


The drone hitpoints and damge bonus is very useful. Believe it or not, it assists the rorqual with defending itself, and gives you a means of killing rats in the belt if you are using a rorqual for hauling. Yes, some of us do so.

The bonus to survey scanner range is also useful. Hulk selftank fits are incredibly tight, and don't have room for a survey scanner, if you want to be able to tank most belt spawns cap stable. The survey scanner bonus on the rorqual allows you to quickly check how much is left in all the roids, even ones that are on a further part of the belt. Getting rid of this would be dumb.

Almost as dumb as putting ganglink modules on a pos.

As for being the most unused ship in eve? Are you kidding me? At any one point in time, there have to be at least 40-50 rorquals being piloted in null, and w-space, if not more ganglinking for miners, or being used to transport stuff. All day. Every day. Compare this to something like the Leviathan, which has no practical ratting value. The leviathan, sure, gets used occasionally for bridging, or for structure bashing, or might make a brief appearance in a large super fight, but the time in hours that leviathans are actively being used in eve for their intended roles are FAR, FAR, FAR less than that of the rorqual. I'd venture that all titans, and even black ops battleships see less manhours of usage per day, where the ship is actually being used by players, and not docked up or cloaked waiting.

Yes, the rorqual is suffering. No, your suggestions are not something that would be beneficial to current rorq pilots, or the game. We want motivation to put them in the belt, not seeing them removed or made useless simply because they are missing something.
Lana Banely
Orion Constellation Inc.
#28 - 2014-07-09 00:01:42 UTC
Arronicus wrote:
Lana Banely wrote:
Capital Industrial Ships bonuses (per skill level):

20% bonus to Drone hitpoints and damage <-- Unused

Role Bonus:

900% bonus to Survey Scanner range <-- Unused and stupid

If CCP makes POS Mining boost modules they can remove Rorqual from eve, it is THE most unused ship in eve, not to mention wasted skill time for skills that will never be in use. It is shame that you see super caps on grid in fights and you cant see Rorqual even in belt.


*Snip* Please refrain from personal attacks. ISD Ezwal.


The drone hitpoints and damge bonus is very useful. Believe it or not, it assists the rorqual with defending itself, and gives you a means of killing rats in the belt if you are using a rorqual for hauling. Yes, some of us do so.

The bonus to survey scanner range is also useful. Hulk selftank fits are incredibly tight, and don't have room for a survey scanner, if you want to be able to tank most belt spawns cap stable. The survey scanner bonus on the rorqual allows you to quickly check how much is left in all the roids, even ones that are on a further part of the belt. Getting rid of this would be dumb.

Almost as dumb as putting ganglink modules on a pos.

As for being the most unused ship in eve? Are you kidding me? At any one point in time, there have to be at least 40-50 rorquals being piloted in null, and w-space, if not more ganglinking for miners, or being used to transport stuff. All day. Every day. Compare this to something like the Leviathan, which has no practical ratting value. The leviathan, sure, gets used occasionally for bridging, or for structure bashing, or might make a brief appearance in a large super fight, but the time in hours that leviathans are actively being used in eve for their intended roles are FAR, FAR, FAR less than that of the rorqual. I'd venture that all titans, and even black ops battleships see less manhours of usage per day, where the ship is actually being used by players, and not docked up or cloaked waiting.

Yes, the rorqual is suffering. No, your suggestions are not something that would be beneficial to current rorq pilots, or the game. We want motivation to put them in the belt, not seeing them removed or made useless simply because they are missing something.


It is unused, not that people are not using it, but HOW do they using it?
According to skils and tree, they dont use it at all.
It is POS boost ship mainly, nothing else.
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