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Dev Blog: Tiptoe Through the Tooltips

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Mag's
Azn Empire
#1181 - 2014-06-28 09:32:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Mag's
Oraac Ensor wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Well, the current SiSi build has a far longer delay available for tooltips (not brackets. Those still come up nice and quickly)

Not perfect yet, but a good step towards a good solution.

There will be no "good step towards a good solution" until we have MULTIPLE delay sliders and the 'black box in space' is gone.
+ 1.
One single dev managed this with the audio and he created an awesome set of options.

Oh yea sorry Steve Ronuken in Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM Alliance, am I not being helpful?

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Gaijin Lanis
Gallente Federation
#1182 - 2014-06-28 23:29:08 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Well, the current SiSi build has a far longer delay available for tooltips (not brackets. Those still come up nice and quickly)

Not perfect yet, but a good step towards a good solution.


I'm not sure if you've realized this or not, but the main reason this particular update has over a thousand replies is because the best solution would have been to bring back the system the update replaced. As, apart from worse-than-useless graphical flourishes, the new system offers barely anything the old system did not.

The above was written and posted with nothing but love in my heart for all.

Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
#1183 - 2014-06-29 06:00:29 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Well, the current SiSi build has a far longer delay available for tooltips (not brackets. Those still come up nice and quickly)

Not perfect yet, but a good step towards a good solution.


If you honestly believe that, then you are further out of touch with reality than everyone thought.

I noticed that you chose not to reply to my previous post answering your earlier comments about me.

Selective replies, you should work for CCP........ oh wait......
Panterata
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1184 - 2014-06-29 18:17:08 UTC
Any luck today regarding on/off option or multiplay sliders? (i was two days afk)
Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
#1185 - 2014-06-30 06:52:28 UTC
Panterata wrote:
Any luck today regarding on/off option or multiplay sliders? (i was two days afk)


What do you think ?
Panterata
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1186 - 2014-06-30 17:45:48 UTC
Rommiee wrote:
Panterata wrote:
Any luck today regarding on/off option or multiplay sliders? (i was two days afk)


What do you think ?



I think that someone is not working
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#1187 - 2014-06-30 21:21:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximus Aerelius
Now, well I'm fully aware that I'm not a programmer, the screen real estate seems to be enough for a few more sliders:

Right in there under Inflight or extend the screen as seen in CCP WhiteNoiseTrash's bit of brilliance here.

Either way, there's options and plenty of space. If need be ditch the Captains Quarters camera settings from Display and Graphics and slide it all in there Blink
Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
#1188 - 2014-07-03 10:06:56 UTC
Why am I not surprised that there has been no Dev comments for days...
Arec Bardwin
#1189 - 2014-07-03 13:55:06 UTC
There is a thread in Test Server Feedback » Changes to in-space bracket lists.

Not much about any changes to tool tips though.
Rommiee
Mercury Inc.
#1190 - 2014-07-07 12:29:33 UTC
The Dev's still cant be ar$ed to reply, then.
Malou Hashur
Enterprise Holdings
#1191 - 2014-07-08 06:27:23 UTC
Rommiee wrote:
The Dev's still cant be ar$ed to reply, then.


And CCP wonder why so many people have contempt for the way they operate.


Screw things up > do a few cosmetic changes which do not fix what was broken > make no further comments and ignore all other concerns


Seriously, this is an awful way to work, how the hell can you justify your attitude ?

CCP Philosophy ==>>

  1. If it works, break it. If it’s broken, leave it and break something else.

  2. Ignore all Forum comments that raise issues and concerns about our "features", and bring said "features" in anyway.

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1192 - 2014-07-09 22:24:11 UTC
Well, I'm not gonna read thru +60 pages and obviously CCP isn't gonna do it either.

However just reading the last page here tells me that CCP doesn't care what the playerbase thinks.

Anyway, I'm gonna voice my displeasure with the new tool-tips that appear in space, in station, in star-map, in market, etc. Basically everywhere they appear in game. They are much too large and appear too quickly, they need to have a much longer delay time. Also the ones in the star-map suck. The old version of star-map tool-tips worked great compared to what CCP now has active. As for the tool-tips happening in space, come on CCP, I don't need to see info on my weapons every time I go to activate them.

Hell, if the Dev's really need something to work on, how about having Drones show Shield, Armor and Structure stats while sitting in the Drone Bay as well as when Drones are active in space.

Also whenever a target is being locked, the moment it happens, any right click drop down menu that happens to be open get's closed automatically. It's really frustrating to say the least, especially when you're trying to switch munitions or give orders to Drones, etc.



DMC
Maximus Aerelius
PROPHET OF ENIGMA
#1193 - 2014-07-10 06:51:24 UTC
From this Dev Blog In-Space Brackets revisited with Crius is this

CCP Delegate Zero wrote:
As the in-space brackets are a completely different feature to tooltips per se, we have been concentrating initially on improving this key part of the UI. Now that this has been done, we will look at improving the experience with tooltips in later releases. In that regard we are looking at configuring tooltip behavior by category, which we think would allow for you to tune how tooltips display based on the relevance of the information to you.


Soon™
Mag's
Azn Empire
#1194 - 2014-07-11 11:33:42 UTC
Maximus Aerelius wrote:
From this Dev Blog In-Space Brackets revisited with Crius is this

CCP Delegate Zero wrote:
As the in-space brackets are a completely different feature to tooltips per se, we have been concentrating initially on improving this key part of the UI. Now that this has been done, we will look at improving the experience with tooltips in later releases. In that regard we are looking at configuring tooltip behavior by category, which we think would allow for you to tune how tooltips display based on the relevance of the information to you.


Soon™
At least they have admitted they made a mistake, all be it in other words.

No thanks to the CSM and their 'it's fine' attitude.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#1195 - 2014-07-11 11:49:25 UTC
Mag's wrote:
No thanks to the CSM and their 'it's fine' attitude.


Our 'It's being worked on, so there's no point yelling about it' attitude, thank you very much.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter

Mag's
Azn Empire
#1196 - 2014-07-11 19:27:22 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Mag's wrote:
No thanks to the CSM and their 'it's fine' attitude.


Our 'It's being worked on, so there's no point yelling about it' attitude, thank you very much.
Yep like I said, the 'It's fine' attitude.

You've never once shown interest in actually helping fix this mess. Such as pushing helpful suggestions that were posted. You've just helpfully pointed out the slider. Which actually was of no help at all.

Well done.

Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the Lions will ignore you in the Savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless.

Gaijin Lanis
Gallente Federation
#1197 - 2014-07-12 07:30:17 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Mag's wrote:
No thanks to the CSM and their 'it's fine' attitude.


Our 'It's being worked on, so there's no point yelling about it' attitude, thank you very much.

Features that are being "worked on" should not be on tranquility at all.

The above was written and posted with nothing but love in my heart for all.

Panterata
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1198 - 2014-07-15 21:40:31 UTC
bump...I will not let this thread to die!
Gaijin Lanis
Gallente Federation
#1199 - 2014-07-25 06:04:32 UTC
So what are the chances of getting a clear and concise explanation as to why it is completely outside the realm of possibility to patch in an array of on/off buttons and/or the option to enable previous functionality?

The above was written and posted with nothing but love in my heart for all.

Kusum Fawn
Perkone
Caldari State
#1200 - 2014-07-30 13:29:32 UTC
hmm....

Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.