Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Yes by a small fleet. Saying flatly wrong things is not going to win you any points. All three things do not require timers. All three things are small gang targets: it's just that shooting structures is boring for small gangs.

The amount of effort it require is more of a factor then "protecting the income!!!".

This is a very interesting thread!

My suggestions would be as followed:

The fact that 1 alliance (Coalition) can hold 1/3 of the game is weird to me. The Hacking module would be a excellent module to put into the game so that smaller alliances can poke the bigger ones for fun to gain sov. But then you come to the point where alliances will just jump in a lot of stuff to protect their sov without much real effort.

The solution would be to change the cost of sov. Basicly i would like to see that once you get above the a X amount of systems that it will cost more to keep it. This can then function as a Stacking penalty and will directly effect the bigger guy. This will make it so that its actually cost effective to have smaller alliance hold a smaller amount of systems and it will become extremely expensive to hold as many systems as some alliances do right now.

Also more alliances mean more changes for f*ck ups which will result in interesting content. It will also allow smaller alliances to take some sov and grow overtime resulting in them possibly becoming the next powerhouse. This will directly increase the content available in Nullsec on short term and long term...

You could even change the fact of owning a region is not beneficial but owning a constellation is. Once Constellations get important enough then it will invite smaller alliances to take that constellation and then expand once they are ready. This would basically mean that within a region multiple alliances could fight over who gets what. You could also have this effect your structure EHP. Basically the more you own the more you get weaker. This will allow smaller alliances to engage into DPS races because they have less to chew through. while larger alliances will have to shoot through a lot more EHP when the station is owned by a smaller alliance with less space

Eve was a lot more ‘’small alliance’’ friendly when old alliances that by have passed away. most of these alliances could simply not keep up with the increase of sizes of the fleet fights. With my ideas you will return this to the game and hopefully make it possible for new alliances to step up and maybe become the next Goonswarm / PL / Solar / CVA / Razor / NCDOT etc.

WIth my ideas you will give players the idea that they are possible of doing something while now everybody just sits and waits around until their FC pings. So in the end it will directly increase content in 0.0

SHIP SECTION

I think the issues that we are currently experiencing lay with how somethings are designed but not in the way they playout. I would for instance redesign the carrier drastically. The Carrier is literally the best option for almost every 0.0 engagement which is pretty scary. They should return to being a support vessel and keep the Supercarrier to deal the damage. This would immediately affect the ways people pick their capitals. The list would then return as following:

Carrier = Support
Dread = Damage
Super = able to do both
Titan = damage

Changing this will increase sub cap usages extremely which will result in more subcap fights and less reasons to escalate with super capitals or even titans.

also now that i've mentioned titans. Titans should return to being a ship that can actually do something other than live in a pos to bridge somebody. Titans are a big investment and I think they should be possible to at least fight something off. Yes its time to say it but bring back the Tracking!!!

It used to be an issue that bigger alliances (cough) would have problems with 30 titans dropping on their 40 man battleship fleet. U know how to clear that?? Indeed drop in a equal amount of dreads and haze them or get on zero of them. Another thing could be is a small AOW Doomsday that would do a set amount of damage but the more it hits the less damage it does.

Returning tracking titans to the game will not mean that it will return to what it used to be (thanks raiden xD) because right now alliances will just return the favor to quick. But it will allow individual titan pilots to do a bit more with their investment.

Now on to fuel. Fuel is definitely in no need of getting more expensive or more used because it will affect smaller alliances a lot more then bigger alliances. Bigger alliances simply increase their fuel budget and do a little bit more runs back and forth from jita. Changing ships that use isotopes will affect the game a lot more than just increasing the usages.

lowering prices of hulls won't change much either. its all about giving mainly bigger alliances a reason to pick subcaps over the option of carriers and their insane good at everything style of warfare.


just something I could come up with after browsing through everything
@BobmonEve

Make a deployable specifically designed to punish overextended empires and give potential for smaller ones to out harass a larger one. Upon deployment, the structure no longer sends notifications of any sort to its owners. For every day beyond the first, the total amount of HP required for reinforcement or destruction is cut by 10%. Obviously it should be very easy to destroy once discovered, and only gross negligence could let one of these last long enough to be effective.

Ah, and here we are, back to the 'If a huge alliance can only hold sov in 5 systems, that will fix the blue doughnut' argument. Please see the extensive list of well thought out replies as to why this will not only have none of the intended benefit, but will stifle new alliances, and make the idea of 'carving out your own tract of space' less of an appealing aspiration.

This is a arbitrary limit even if its dynamic in its application. It can be gamed by creating alt alliances. So that way you only control a set amount of stations for the cost to not be driven up. Instead you tie sov cost to usage. If you use it its cheap if you don't its expensive.

Hopefully the new space focuses on 'the little guys' and not huge coalitions. Who knows how CCP will set up the new space, but I'd bet that they are looking at all the ideas being discussed here. I see it as the testing grounds for fixing the rest of Eve's sov/projection problems.

The potential is there for sure, for meaningful space that can be held and secured by small groups. Player built/controlled stargates would likely be the first big step in stopping a huge coalition entering the system dead in its tracks. Hopefully the builders of the gates will have some measure of control, ie, force mass limits that recharge after certain amount of time (allows for small roaming both ways), to downright turning it off for a period of time.

I hope in these new systems they disallow cynos and jump drives altogether, but still make it possible for a super to exit or enter the system via the player-build stargate (make it so one super uses up the entire mass limit for that period of time). Or disallow supers in the new system altogether, I'm cool with that too.

As for the gates being destructable...make it so that the gate has to go through reinforcement timers on the Other side first, before the outside of the gate is vulnerable. Destruction of the gate could leave the surviving occupants forced with teaming up to do what they can to build a new exit gate...for which the other end could open up in a worse or better place than before...
Suddenly, Eve becomes KRULL!!!!

Also I'd like to see logging off outside a station in these new systems be a death sentence...your ships still does emergency warp...but stays in system until you log back in.That should discourage long-term cloaky campers.

So then you just fill the space with renters and we're back to square one

Until living in and using space for YOURSELF and your members is more profitable, fun, beneficial and entertaining than renting it out and unsubbing is addressed, all this power projection talk is just bandaids on a bigger problem.

Kill the passive income. ie moons and renters.
Depletable moons.

For your back to 2008 senario, Worm Holes would be a very efficient logistics backdoor.

Perhaps some renters still would exist. However its still based on what I can reasonably travel too and protect. So If a renter system in cobalt edge is in reinforced mode and comes out @ 18:00 and a system in the spire comes out @ 18:15 I can only defend one because I cannot make it between those 2 points in time. This is where the power projection nerf comes into play. My sphere of influence is dictated by the fairest measure ( Time). Everyone everywhere will be affected fairly by the same rule.