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ElQuirko
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#61 - 2014-07-06 19:02:06 UTC
Sintiar Loffwagea wrote:
7 month ago price per PLEX is 600 each and at this time it 200mil extra in just half year .


And when I joined EVE it was 365mil. Man up. Blink

Dodixie > Hek
Cynter DeVries
Spheroidal Projections
#62 - 2014-07-06 21:58:02 UTC
Who is "Al" and why is he hailing PLEX?

Cynter's Law of feature suggestion: Thou shalt not suggest NPCs do something players could do instead.
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#63 - 2014-07-07 01:40:22 UTC
Cynter DeVries wrote:
Who is "Al" and why is he hailing PLEX?





Probably a typo and they actually meant Alf.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#64 - 2014-07-07 03:36:29 UTC
... grabs a pint, puts on the shades, and lies back on a heap of Thulium to work on the tan until PLEX hits 1bil... Cool

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#65 - 2014-07-07 10:35:36 UTC
Emma Muutaras wrote:
i keep seeing post like this "oh plexs cost to much" "its not fair i cant afford to plex my account this month" ect ect.

The simple fact is when you buy a plex from the market to pay your sub fee some else paid real $$$ for it.

eves economy is almost entirely play run and the price of plex is no different its all about supply and demand. so many people want to play for free and not pay sub fees the people who are willing to buy plexs for $$$ and subsidize ur $$$ fee complaining plex prices are to high on the forums is to put it blunt is ridiculous its there asset to "try" and sell at a price there happy with, complaining plex prices are to high on the forums is to put it blunt is ridiculous.

the reason plex prices are this high is because thats how much the avrage plex user is willing to spend if nobody was buying them at this price there would be no demand and the price would fall.

TBH i would be happy paying 1-2 Bil on a plex i can make 100 mil a hour killing npcs not to mention other money making adventures such as PI, playing the market data/relic sites and faction loot

as it currently stands, at 800 mil i need to farm npc's for a total of 8 hours in a month to cover my sub costs not to bad to cover the sub fee i would need to pay otherwise


1-2bil @ 100mil an hour is 10-20 hours work to pay for a subscription. Get a part-time job at McDonals for 5 hours a week. you'll buy a subscription ins 1-2 hours and then walk away with enough cash for another 4 plex. 20 hours a month work and you get the current equivilent of 200 hours hard grind in Eve.

Why don't people understand opportunity cost?!
Dave Stark
#66 - 2014-07-07 10:40:23 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
Emma Muutaras wrote:
i keep seeing post like this "oh plexs cost to much" "its not fair i cant afford to plex my account this month" ect ect.

The simple fact is when you buy a plex from the market to pay your sub fee some else paid real $$$ for it.

eves economy is almost entirely play run and the price of plex is no different its all about supply and demand. so many people want to play for free and not pay sub fees the people who are willing to buy plexs for $$$ and subsidize ur $$$ fee complaining plex prices are to high on the forums is to put it blunt is ridiculous its there asset to "try" and sell at a price there happy with, complaining plex prices are to high on the forums is to put it blunt is ridiculous.

the reason plex prices are this high is because thats how much the avrage plex user is willing to spend if nobody was buying them at this price there would be no demand and the price would fall.

TBH i would be happy paying 1-2 Bil on a plex i can make 100 mil a hour killing npcs not to mention other money making adventures such as PI, playing the market data/relic sites and faction loot

as it currently stands, at 800 mil i need to farm npc's for a total of 8 hours in a month to cover my sub costs not to bad to cover the sub fee i would need to pay otherwise


1-2bil @ 100mil an hour is 10-20 hours work to pay for a subscription. Get a part-time job at McDonals for 5 hours a week. you'll buy a subscription ins 1-2 hours and then walk away with enough cash for another 4 plex. 20 hours a month work and you get the current equivilent of 200 hours hard grind in Eve.

Why don't people understand opportunity cost?!


you say that like it's possible to just magic a few hours overtime out of thin air.
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#67 - 2014-07-07 11:06:46 UTC
Dave Stark wrote:
Maeltstome wrote:
Emma Muutaras wrote:
i keep seeing post like this "oh plexs cost to much" "its not fair i cant afford to plex my account this month" ect ect.

The simple fact is when you buy a plex from the market to pay your sub fee some else paid real $$$ for it.

eves economy is almost entirely play run and the price of plex is no different its all about supply and demand. so many people want to play for free and not pay sub fees the people who are willing to buy plexs for $$$ and subsidize ur $$$ fee complaining plex prices are to high on the forums is to put it blunt is ridiculous its there asset to "try" and sell at a price there happy with, complaining plex prices are to high on the forums is to put it blunt is ridiculous.

the reason plex prices are this high is because thats how much the avrage plex user is willing to spend if nobody was buying them at this price there would be no demand and the price would fall.

TBH i would be happy paying 1-2 Bil on a plex i can make 100 mil a hour killing npcs not to mention other money making adventures such as PI, playing the market data/relic sites and faction loot

as it currently stands, at 800 mil i need to farm npc's for a total of 8 hours in a month to cover my sub costs not to bad to cover the sub fee i would need to pay otherwise


1-2bil @ 100mil an hour is 10-20 hours work to pay for a subscription. Get a part-time job at McDonals for 5 hours a week. you'll buy a subscription ins 1-2 hours and then walk away with enough cash for another 4 plex. 20 hours a month work and you get the current equivilent of 200 hours hard grind in Eve.

Why don't people understand opportunity cost?!


you say that like it's possible to just magic a few hours overtime out of thin air.


I'm implying if you spend 20hours a month feeding an Eve subscription because you can't afford to play it otherwise, you could make that small amount of cash some other way. 2x plex costs $34.99. that means $17.50 per plex, that means 1million is costs less than $0.03. So you're essentially being payed around $2.20 an hour for your eve gains.

It can't be that hard to justify 2 hours of overtime a month.
Grunanca
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#68 - 2014-07-07 11:21:35 UTC
Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:
Quote:
Al Hail to Plex


Who is Al Hail, and why do we care how he pays for his subs?






Damn, you beat me to it!
Dave Stark
#69 - 2014-07-07 11:22:51 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
It can't be that hard to justify 2 hours of overtime a month.


oh no, i get it. it makes vastly more sense to spend an extra 2 hours of time in the office than trying to earn isk to plex an account.

however that doesn't change the fact that even if some one wants to do 2 hours of overtime, doesn't mean that there's 2 hours of overtime for them to do.
level 4 missions, mining, incursions, etc will always be there when you log in (maybe not incursions), but extra overtime at work might be intermittent and rare.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#70 - 2014-07-07 11:45:37 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Maeltstome wrote:
Emma Muutaras wrote:
i keep seeing post like this "oh plexs cost to much" "its not fair i cant afford to plex my account this month" ect ect.

The simple fact is when you buy a plex from the market to pay your sub fee some else paid real $$$ for it.

eves economy is almost entirely play run and the price of plex is no different its all about supply and demand. so many people want to play for free and not pay sub fees the people who are willing to buy plexs for $$$ and subsidize ur $$$ fee complaining plex prices are to high on the forums is to put it blunt is ridiculous its there asset to "try" and sell at a price there happy with, complaining plex prices are to high on the forums is to put it blunt is ridiculous.

the reason plex prices are this high is because thats how much the avrage plex user is willing to spend if nobody was buying them at this price there would be no demand and the price would fall.

TBH i would be happy paying 1-2 Bil on a plex i can make 100 mil a hour killing npcs not to mention other money making adventures such as PI, playing the market data/relic sites and faction loot

as it currently stands, at 800 mil i need to farm npc's for a total of 8 hours in a month to cover my sub costs not to bad to cover the sub fee i would need to pay otherwise


1-2bil @ 100mil an hour is 10-20 hours work to pay for a subscription. Get a part-time job at McDonals for 5 hours a week. you'll buy a subscription ins 1-2 hours and then walk away with enough cash for another 4 plex. 20 hours a month work and you get the current equivilent of 200 hours hard grind in Eve.

Why don't people understand opportunity cost?!


you say that like it's possible to just magic a few hours overtime out of thin air.


I'm implying if you spend 20hours a month feeding an Eve subscription because you can't afford to play it otherwise, you could make that small amount of cash some other way. 2x plex costs $34.99. that means $17.50 per plex, that means 1million is costs less than $0.03. So you're essentially being payed around $2.20 an hour for your eve gains.

It can't be that hard to justify 2 hours of overtime a month.


I don't know, I play the game for a month, and I end up with enough isk for my needs, including a plex. Why would I want to work 2 hours overtime in this case?
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#71 - 2014-07-07 11:49:19 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
I don't know, I play the game for a month, and I end up with enough isk for my needs, including a plex. Why would I want to work 2 hours overtime in this case?


If you inherently get pleasure from grinding isk and that's all you do, then buy Plex. Essentially all your doing is making isk and
spending it to keep your account running to make isk to keep your account running.

It's a cycle, but if you enjoy the status quo (e.g. not saving up for new ships, more toon, etc.) then i suppose it's perfect for you.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
When Fleets Collide
#72 - 2014-07-07 11:54:39 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:
I don't know, I play the game for a month, and I end up with enough isk for my needs, including a plex. Why would I want to work 2 hours overtime in this case?


If you inherently get pleasure from grinding isk and that's all you do, then buy Plex. Essentially all your doing is making isk and
spending it to keep your account running to make isk to keep your account running.

It's a cycle, but if you enjoy the status quo (e.g. not saving up for new ships, more toon, etc.) then i suppose it's perfect for you.


Nonono, I play the game. I end up with enough isk by playing. Not the other way around.
Maeltstome
Ten Thousand Days
#73 - 2014-07-07 12:03:33 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Maeltstome wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:
I don't know, I play the game for a month, and I end up with enough isk for my needs, including a plex. Why would I want to work 2 hours overtime in this case?


If you inherently get pleasure from grinding isk and that's all you do, then buy Plex. Essentially all your doing is making isk and
spending it to keep your account running to make isk to keep your account running.

It's a cycle, but if you enjoy the status quo (e.g. not saving up for new ships, more toon, etc.) then i suppose it's perfect for you.


Nonono, I play the game. I end up with enough isk by playing. Not the other way around.


I understand. It's just normal that most activities in eve cost cash instead of creating it. I'd say you are the exception rather than the rule.
Xylem Viliana
homeless bum
#74 - 2014-07-07 15:20:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Xylem Viliana
Who is Al and why does he hail PLEX?

Edit: I was beaten to this line by like 4 days....

I'll just go back to sleep.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#75 - 2014-07-07 15:25:36 UTC
Xylem Viliana wrote:
Who is Al and why does he hail PLEX?

Edit: I was beaten to this line by like 4 days....

I'll just go back to sleep.


Lol you beat me to it though so +1/2

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Emma Muutaras
State War Academy
Caldari State
#76 - 2014-07-07 16:32:48 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:
I don't know, I play the game for a month, and I end up with enough isk for my needs, including a plex. Why would I want to work 2 hours overtime in this case?


If you inherently get pleasure from grinding isk and that's all you do, then buy Plex. Essentially all your doing is making isk and
spending it to keep your account running to make isk to keep your account running.

It's a cycle, but if you enjoy the status quo (e.g. not saving up for new ships, more toon, etc.) then i suppose it's perfect for you.


your argument is flawed yes i make isk to spend isk on plex a nasty cycle but the fact i can make all the isk required for the said plex in a few hours leaves the rest of the month to make a profit and lose ships in glorious pvp

TBH if i was going out in t2 ships once or twice a day and getting them blown up then yes i prolly would have to spend real$$$ to sub my account rather than plex it but i play within my means if i cant afford to lose it i dont fly it.

oh and BTW im self employed accountant dont need no extra funds cooking you ya bigmac
TharOkha
0asis Group
#77 - 2014-07-07 18:01:48 UTC
Emma Muutaras wrote:
Maeltstome wrote:
Ria Nieyli wrote:
I don't know, I play the game for a month, and I end up with enough isk for my needs, including a plex. Why would I want to work 2 hours overtime in this case?


If you inherently get pleasure from grinding isk and that's all you do, then buy Plex. Essentially all your doing is making isk and
spending it to keep your account running to make isk to keep your account running.

It's a cycle, but if you enjoy the status quo (e.g. not saving up for new ships, more toon, etc.) then i suppose it's perfect for you.


your argument is flawed yes i make isk to spend isk on plex a nasty cycle but the fact i can make all the isk required for the said plex in a few hours leaves the rest of the month to make a profit and lose ships in glorious pvp

TBH if i was going out in t2 ships once or twice a day and getting them blown up then yes i prolly would have to spend real$$$ to sub my account rather than plex it but i play within my means if i cant afford to lose it i dont fly it.

oh and BTW im self employed accountant dont need no extra funds cooking you ya bigmac


people like Maeltstome doesn't have a clue how much isk can one nifty capsuleer earn per day without too much effort :D

CODE. Venture hunt contest in a nutshell
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#78 - 2014-07-07 18:08:16 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:


I'm implying if you spend 20hours a month feeding an Eve subscription because you can't afford to play it otherwise, you could make that small amount of cash some other way. 2x plex costs $34.99. that means $17.50 per plex, that means 1million is costs less than $0.03. So you're essentially being payed around $2.20 an hour for your eve gains.

It can't be that hard to justify 2 hours of overtime a month.


My overtime invovles a kevlar vest and domestic violence calls. So you think 2 hours of that is better than the 14 or so hours (over the course of a month) I spend casually doing pve (in faction warfare, or lvl 5s, a bit longer if doing high sec incursions) while butt ass naked and drunk at home to plex 4 accounts?


Hint: Butt ass naked and drunk trumps any time savings one might gain from working OT.
THCS
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#79 - 2014-07-07 18:20:19 UTC
Maeltstome wrote:
Dave Stark wrote:
Maeltstome wrote:
Emma Muutaras wrote:
i keep seeing post like this "oh plexs cost to much" "its not fair i cant afford to plex my account this month" ect ect.

The simple fact is when you buy a plex from the market to pay your sub fee some else paid real $$$ for it.

eves economy is almost entirely play run and the price of plex is no different its all about supply and demand. so many people want to play for free and not pay sub fees the people who are willing to buy plexs for $$$ and subsidize ur $$$ fee complaining plex prices are to high on the forums is to put it blunt is ridiculous its there asset to "try" and sell at a price there happy with, complaining plex prices are to high on the forums is to put it blunt is ridiculous.

the reason plex prices are this high is because thats how much the avrage plex user is willing to spend if nobody was buying them at this price there would be no demand and the price would fall.

TBH i would be happy paying 1-2 Bil on a plex i can make 100 mil a hour killing npcs not to mention other money making adventures such as PI, playing the market data/relic sites and faction loot

as it currently stands, at 800 mil i need to farm npc's for a total of 8 hours in a month to cover my sub costs not to bad to cover the sub fee i would need to pay otherwise


1-2bil @ 100mil an hour is 10-20 hours work to pay for a subscription. Get a part-time job at McDonals for 5 hours a week. you'll buy a subscription ins 1-2 hours and then walk away with enough cash for another 4 plex. 20 hours a month work and you get the current equivilent of 200 hours hard grind in Eve.

Why don't people understand opportunity cost?!


you say that like it's possible to just magic a few hours overtime out of thin air.


I'm implying if you spend 20hours a month feeding an Eve subscription because you can't afford to play it otherwise, you could make that small amount of cash some other way. 2x plex costs $34.99. that means $17.50 per plex, that means 1million is costs less than $0.03. So you're essentially being payed around $2.20 an hour for your eve gains.

It can't be that hard to justify 2 hours of overtime a month.



implying you would enjoy working for 2 hrs at a ****** job JUST TO PAY FOR EVE?
ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#80 - 2014-07-07 20:56:29 UTC
As others are far better at explaining the finer intricacies of market fluctuations, supply and demand, etcetera, I will just say this:

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